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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2024-09-07 01:38 pm

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Re: What do you consider a red flag in real life?

(Anonymous) 2024-09-07 09:35 pm (UTC)(link)
What's wrong with only buying or eating organic food? (I cannot afford to do that, BTW.)

Re: What do you consider a red flag in real life?

(Anonymous) 2024-09-07 09:55 pm (UTC)(link)
Because some people can't afford it, people who can are evil, obviously.

Re: What do you consider a red flag in real life?

(Anonymous) 2024-09-07 10:08 pm (UTC)(link)
I think it's less about buying/eating it and more about making it your whole personality. The kind of person who snarks and comments negatively on someone else's food choices because they're not solely eating organic foods.

Re: What do you consider a red flag in real life?

(Anonymous) 2024-09-07 10:30 pm (UTC)(link)
AYRT

Along with many people making it their personality, this action perpetuates a lot of pseudoscience and misinformation around agriculture. For example, there's a persistent myth that organic produce has no pesticides. Not only does it use pesticides, it also uses higher amounts of them. This continued spreading of misinformation boils my boil something fierce.

Re: What do you consider a red flag in real life?

(Anonymous) 2024-09-07 10:56 pm (UTC)(link)
The label for "organic" is a legal one, not a scientific one. Current "organic" farming methods are worse for the environment, use more pesticides, unable to actually be "organic" in reality (i.e. forbidden types of treatments blowing over from the neighboring "non-organic" farm), and are basically ways for production companies to charge through the nose for a worse quality product. It feeds into people who want to seem like they're doing something, but who don't or won't actually put in the work to understand the science, which perpetuates gross scientific ignorance.

In short, someone who says they only eat organic is a person who doesn't do their research, which probably extends to other things in their life as well.

Re: What do you consider a red flag in real life?

(Anonymous) 2024-09-08 08:35 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm sick of labels that make it seem like you can pay capitalism more than the going rate to get the thing you were actually trying to pay for - in this case, nutritious, reasonable food. And I'm just as fed up with NGOs claiming that the world will be better when more people generously pay extra for their pet litany of "superior, more ethically produced" products.

But I think criticizing people for not according with my particular buying preferences is a dead end. We all have limited time and limited information, and the fact is you usually can't get firsthand information about ANY of the promises on labels. The companies are greedy and corrupt and the government is more than happy to drop the ball on regulation. In light of that, going "but you should have researched it longer and realized that was a scam" seems a little unfair.

I recently read an article by Cory Doctorow where he said "Paying for the product doesn’t fill your vapid boss’s shriveled heart with so much joy that he decides to stop trying to think of ways to fuck you over. [...] If you’re not paying for the product, you’re the product, and if you are paying for the product, you’re still the product.

Just ask the farmers who are expected to swap parts into their own busted, half-million dollar, mission-critical tractors, but can’t actually use those parts until a technician charges them $200 to drive out to the farm and type a parts pairing unlock code into their console.

John Deere’s not giving away tractors. Give John Deere a half mil for a tractor and you will be the product."

Really, I think that's the situation facing people. In supermarkets, and just about everywhere else.
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Re: What do you consider a red flag in real life?

[personal profile] greghousesgf 2024-09-07 11:32 pm (UTC)(link)
A lot of organic food is not any better tasting or healthier than other food, the people who sell it just want you to think it is so they can charge more money for it.

Re: What do you consider a red flag in real life?

(Anonymous) 2024-09-08 12:24 am (UTC)(link)
I met a family who only ate organic because they believed the government was poisoning other foods. And also spying on us with drones, and forcing kids to be trans. It was so weird I went online to see what was up and learned there's an entire subculture of people like this.