[ SECRET POST #6475 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #6475 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.


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[Saint Seiya/Knights of the Zodiac]



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03. [SPOILERS for The Righteous Gemstones, season 3]




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04. [SPOILERS for Hell Followed With Us]




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05. [SPOILERS for Ghost: Rite Here Rite Now]
[WARNING for discussion of RL death/loss]




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06. [WARNING for discussion of sexual harassment/stalking]

[Gushing Over Magical Girls]



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07. [WARNING for discussion of JKR/transphobia]
















Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 00 pages, 00 secrets from Secret Submission Post #925.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Comments

[fscom]

01. https://i.imgur.com/3hhtUGg.png

[(Anonymous)]

I'm not looking that up with my one wild and precious life and the algorithm that never forgets. Can someone explain?

[(Anonymous)]

I'm here with the same dilemma. I won't google that for love nor money, but I hope someone else can.

[(Anonymous)]

Haven't seen it, don't know Gruber, but Wikipedia says:

'Allo 'Allo! is a British sitcom television series, created by David Croft and Jeremy Lloyd,[1] starring Gorden Kaye, Carmen Silvera, Guy Siner and Richard Gibson. Originally broadcast on BBC1,[2] the series focuses on the life of a French café owner in the town of Nouvion,[2] during the German occupation of France in World War II, in which he deals with problems from a dishonest German officer, local French Resistance, the handling of a stolen painting and a pair of trapped British airmen, all while concealing from his wife the affairs he is having with his waitresses.[3]

[(Anonymous)]

AYRT

Oh yeah, that I can get — it's the medals I don't want to dig into.

[(Anonymous)]

AYRT-- I will risk the algorithm (half my searches are related to WWII anyway, although mostly the RAF):

Iron Cross 1st Class
Iron Cross 2nd Class
War Merit Cross 2nd Class with swords
Eastern Front Medal
General Assault Badge
Wehrmacht Long Service Award

[(Anonymous)]

Given when 'Allo 'Allo is set, the Iron Cross is the Hitler Seal of Approval. Couldn't tell you anything about the other medals because I'm just not that into early 20th century German military decorations, but the Iron Cross is still a red flag.

[(Anonymous)]

I suppose he could have won it in WWI?

[(Anonymous)]

About 300k Iron Cross First Class were awarded in WW2. It's really not that special. It's a medal for bravery about level with the US Bronze Star.

[(Anonymous)]

A random fanwiki say his medals are :

Iron Cross 1st Class
Iron Cross 2nd Class
War Merit Cross 2nd Class with swords
Eastern Front Medal
General Assault Badge
Wehrmacht Long Service Award

The Iron Cross is a huge neoNazi symbol these days, in WWII (and well before) it was a basic war merit medal - apparently several million of them were given out. (It was awarded to at least three Jews by the Nazi government, which is certainly a thing I just read on the Internet.)
The Eastern Front medal means he served on the Russian front during the bad parts of the campaign, which was fucking awful in every imaginable way but also something a lot of German soldiers were awarded.
The War Merit cross was like the Iron Cross but less important.
The General Assault Badge was for people who had been part of an infantry assault that earned a medal, but weren't infantry (like engineers and artillery.)
Werhmacht Long Service Award just means he'd been in the German military for at least four years.

I am far from an expert on Nazi medals - that's all just off Wikipedia - but I'm still not sure what secret maker is getting at? Those seem like pretty standard medals for someone who'd been a competent combat officer for most of the war to have. Obviously no Nazi medals make you look good but we already knew he was a Nazi officer and I don't know what else we're supposed to see. But perhaps I am missing something.

[(Anonymous)]

Is the point of the secret that Gruber is too good at being a Nazi, and the show seems to be ignoring what that means?

[(Anonymous)]

Maybe? But none of them are "he's good at being a Nazi", they're "he's good but not spectacular at being a Wehrmacht soldier, and he's been in a lot of front-line combat" which is a fine but fairly important distinction. Like, I suspect very few officers survived combat on the Eastern Front without either deserting or picking up at least one or two of those. (I also suspect very few people who were notably good at being Nazis ended up on the Eastern Front, that's where you send expendables.) I was expecting there to be one that signaled he'd been involved in a specific atrocity or worked with the SS or something.

I think he is maybe the only 'Allo 'Allo character with an Iron Cross though, so I bet that is what the secret writer is looking at, and I may be misreading how special the Iron Cross is.

[larathia]

I'm going to hazard a guess here that it's not the individual medals, but the implication of having ALL the medals, that's a bit ew.

Basically, this guy survived four years on the eastern front, alongside infantry, and served well enough to get medals out of it. One of the things I recall about "german infantry on the eastern front" is that, especially in the earlier years of the war, they dealt with Jewish communities by basically having the infantry shoot them. En masse. Sometimes making them dig their own trench graves first.

Now, those were special units - einsatzgruppen, iirc - but there's seriously no way this guy, with those medals, wasn't really closely adjacent to those activities, and may well have been directly involved at times.

Knowing nothing else about the show/the medals, this is my guess.

[(Anonymous)]

Ah, that makes sense! Basically all I know about the Eastern Front offhand was that it was extremely brutal for and by everyone involved. But it sounds like that particular set of medals probably *does* signal he worked with the SS and was involved in specific atrocities...

[(Anonymous)]

I do wonder if its an intentional costume choice, or just 'outfit from the BBC costume department' that reuses uniforms from shows like Dad's Army.