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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2024-10-07 06:07 pm

[ SECRET POST #6485 ]


⌈ Secret Post #6485 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2024-10-07 11:08 pm (UTC)(link)
AYRT: There are still people that still think the Earth is flat, so the quote might still fit in the first two sentences.

(Anonymous) 2024-10-08 12:04 am (UTC)(link)
A reasonable normal person with a modicum of education, both today and 500 years ago, is overwhelmingly likely to believe correctly that the Earth is not flat.

(Anonymous) 2024-10-08 01:22 am (UTC)(link)
AYRT: Yes, we all know the planet Earth was never flat from even ancient eras, but like the quote says: "People are dumb, panicky dangerous animals". If to a group of people you still insist the Earth is flat, there is no way you can't change their mind because, to them, that's their education and they're right and will get angry at shown being wrong. K had a point in there.

(Anonymous) 2024-10-08 01:23 am (UTC)(link)
SA: you still insist the Earth is NOT flat. Me and my ESL.

(Anonymous) 2024-10-08 04:04 pm (UTC)(link)
But in some ways that's almost the opposite of what the quote is talking about. PEOPLE, "everybody", is referring to common knowledge, what's assumed and agreed on and not questioned by society: namely, the earth is round, both today and 500 years ago. Flat Earthers today aren't so much "people" in the MiB mob-mentality sense as they are conspiratorial non-conformists who find emotional fulfillment in feeling themselves to have wisdom AGAINST prevailing knowledge: invdividual persons being pretty stupid, while the general establishment is actually correct and evidence based.

It's okay to just admit that MiB was a fun popcorn scifi movie with a few good things to say that happened to make a lazy and inaccurate comparison here, because enough people are ignorant of the history of science (and in America specifically, the 'Columbus was a genius/revolutionary and everyone else thought the world was flat' is a self-serving patriotic myth that took awhile to root out of schools'). "500 years ago people knew the world was flat" is a useful SHORTHAND for "the category of general knowledge changes as science advances". A more accurate comparison might have been "600 years ago everyone knew the sun went around the Earth" but that's just not quite as punchy.