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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2024-10-12 02:54 pm

[ SECRET POST #6490 ]


⌈ Secret Post #6490 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2024-10-12 08:44 pm (UTC)(link)
Seems to me the idea is that once it becomes public that a celeb did something awful, people come crawling out of the woodwork commenting on how they always thought the celeb was "ugly", drawing a connection between awful behaviour and looking "ugly".

(Anonymous) 2024-10-12 08:48 pm (UTC)(link)
Maybe? Tons of them also say stuff like "their music was always shitty" or "I always hated their movies" and "they were always so cringe and tryhard" and stuff too. Usually what they claim to always have thought was shitty was something the celeb in question was trying to sell them (looks, fashion, style, music, movies), so it tends to have some relevance.

(Anonymous) 2024-10-12 08:49 pm (UTC)(link)
And saying "their morals turned out to be as shitty as their music always was" is certainly not making any claims that bad music = morally wrong or only good people make good music; that'd be silly!

(Anonymous) 2024-10-12 09:33 pm (UTC)(link)
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Yes, that's what I meant (I'm ESL and did notice that I worded it awkwardly in the comment thread, but I've realized that going back and "correcting" the initial post in a further comment usually doesn't work, so I didn't - no blame to the secret maker(s), they probably don't read the comments under the initial post!).

Why are we insulting their appearance when we could insulting their behavior? What has their appearance to do with anything? It's that annoying "bad person = ugly" trope. People (especially online) already define others and themselves by their looks so much when that's something you can't control, unlike your behavior.

(Anonymous) 2024-10-12 09:43 pm (UTC)(link)
Anon who started the thread: yeah, my explanation for that was because with so many celebrities, what they sell to people as themselves and their brand is inextricably linked with their appearance and style. Nobody really knows them as people so people can only insult what they give us, which is sometimes music, sometimes art, sometimes acting, and often glossy photoshoots where they try really hard to look sexy. When it comes to celebrities saying their music is shit and their style is shit and their appearance is shit and their movies are shit all parse the same to me - all of them are products they try to sell to us and don't parse the same as saying a real person you know is ugly.

If someone's stance is "nobody should ever insult anyone's physical appearance no matter how bad the person is and no matter how much their personal brand was built upon them being attractive, it's the principle of the thing" then that's their stance. But if you wanted to know why other people might do it, this is one explanation for you.