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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2024-10-25 06:00 pm

[ SECRET POST #6503 ]


⌈ Secret Post #6503 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2024-10-25 11:35 pm (UTC)(link)
The problem with Harry/Hermione is... well... mostly a characterization issue.

Harry is frequently either a can't-do-anything-without her or one half of their power couple that takes no prisoners. Weirdly, I still find him to be the better written one.

Hermione's biggest problem is that every bookish, shy girl who has felt smarter than her peers identifies with her and, as a result, Hermione must be better than them. She is Wish Fulfillment because people want to see the very best of what they identify with in her and so write her that way.

Hermione in fic is kind of a case of Schrodinger's Hermione tbh. Some character deviation is always going to happen between canon and fic but Hermione is very rarely all that similar to her canon self.

A lot of fic forget that she's ruthless, shrill, bossy, hates losing, hates being shown up, has a terrible temper and a not so great moral compass for all that she performatively shrieks about House Elves (and yet she never actually goes and talks and listens to the very House Elves she's trying to free; the only one whose opinion she accepts as good is Dobby's, who aligns with what SHE wants to do). This is a girl who keeps a woman in a jar for weeks. Curses the boy she likes with attack canaries because he had the nerve to find someone else to kiss. Makes fun of other peoples' interests (Parvati and Lavender do not deserve her mockery of divination when they clearly like it; Luna does not deserve to me made fun for her father's magazine and her own contributions to it/her belief in things unseen). She's not above jinxing people to get Ron on the Quidditch team and then trying to use Cormac to make Ron jealous later at a Christmas party. This is the girl who goes through six years at Hogwarts and the only people we can really, truly say are her friends remain Harry and Ron.

Hermione is a brilliant, devoted friend. She is clever, cunning, and brave. She's driven. She IS kind, at heart, though she's absolutely terrible at showing it constructively for most of the series. She's awkward and lacks tact. I like Hermione as a character quite a lot. But her fanfic self is very hard to avoid and those fic that DO show off her uglier canon sides are rarely shipfic.

Hermione in shipfic is generally a brilliant girl with a smidgen of a temper who grows up beautiful and kind and always right with a powerful mothering instinct. Or she's a shy, sweet bookish loner who is secretly romantic. And both these characters can be fun, but they don't resemble canon Hermione very much at all.

And people take issue with the ship because Harmony shippers can be very, very loud, and tend to bash Ron, Ginny, everyone who gets in the way of The Most Perfect Love Ever.

(Anonymous) 2024-10-26 01:13 am (UTC)(link)
I am grinning like crazy right now! If only HP discussions had more comments like this! Talk about fair, balanced, and, most of all, respectful!

(Anonymous) 2024-10-26 02:08 am (UTC)(link)
A lot of that is really down to interpretation, though. Different takes on the character aren't necessarily wrong. It is fairly easy for people to read the same book and get very different things out of it.