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⌈ Secret Post #6505 ⌋

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Comments

[fscom]

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[(Anonymous)]

For me, this happens when the only thing interesting thing about the ship was that they weren't together, and the writers can't seem to come up with something meaningful after the pair do get together. (Aside from breaking them up, I guess. And that gets old quickly.)

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah, I have some ships like that where the pining/they can't be together aspect is what makes the ship interesting, and if they actually DID get together I would lose interest in them right away.

[philstar22]

That is a thing for me. But also, sometimes I like a ship in theory, but how they get together doesn't work for me and maybe even ruins the characters (see House/Cuddy where I would have been cool with them getting together back when I shipped, but how the writers did it ruined both of them and the show for me).

[(Anonymous)]

Big same. I think for me it ruins it for locking out all the possible interpretations of the relationship. Idk why I can't just continue to imagine it in different ways, but it just doesn't work. Almost every time a ship becomes canon I lose interest.

[(Anonymous)]

That's what it is for me when it comes to het ships. Het ships in canon tend to play out in very predictable ways which then influence how the fandom views/writes the ship and I don't think it's ever made the ship better or more interesting.

[(Anonymous)]

People are just real bad at writing relationships once they become canon. I don't even know why it is.

[(Anonymous)]

I would guess they draw only from fairy tales or something. Happily ever after, but nobody really says what's after that.

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah, they're like "oh, this couple has achieved their Life Goal, they're done now". Like, if you're writing a straightforward romance and end it there, okay. But this is not the case for like 95% of everything, so why do they keep falling into this?

When it's a M/F relationship, there's the added issue of everything about her getting subsumed into him, but it happens with all kinds of relationships.

[(Anonymous)]

It's only recently that I've ever experienced my ship become canon and I'm riding on the high. It's a great feeling!

[(Anonymous)]

This happened to me with "Rise of Skywalker". When Rey and Kylo Ren kissed, I was like "Yikes almighty, I didn't want them to become canon like this, ick."
And I didn't even know how I would have wanted them to become canon...but I would have preferred they never canonize Reylo and let fans ship them, like FinnPoe.

I wasn't a big Reylo shipper but RoS killed interest I had for a ship I enjoyed.

[philstar22]

Weirdly, I hated and still hate that ship. But I didn't mind the kiss given the context. Him giving his life for her as an act of turning back to the light and her kissing him in that moment, knowing he's about to die.

[sparklywalls]

I often find enemies to lovers and/or doomships rarely satisfying when they become a reality, and it's why I am very picky over fixit fic of that nature as well. To me it feels like one or both characters has to change to the extent that part of what appealed about the pairing in the first place is missing.

(Obviously does not apply to dark fic where the heroic character "falls" into temptation, but those can be messed up really easily as well.)

[(Anonymous)]

You know, I've only recently been able to read (some) fic for (a few) canon couples. Before, like you, I was pretty instantly disinterested in fic once a couple became a canon couple (though canon couples were fine in the background, I would avoid any fic centered on their relationship), unless as a threesome (or moresome) with another character (or two).

Part of the reason why was because I felt like the canon now had it covered and it didn't need to be explored further (not really true for any couple, but that's the way I felt for a long time). Part of the reason why was I didn't want to get frustrated/dissatisfied with how it was handled (this is valid enough, but I think it's the other way around from how I used to think about it - that the fic wouldn't live up to the canon, when really, the canon might not live up to a very good fic). Part of the reason why is that I like relationships that are a little taboo or have some other obstacle in their way and like to see the different ways fic writers get them together and when a couple becomes canon, this is often resolved, making it less interesting to me. And the last part of the reason why is that when a couple becomes canon, I often see the relationship flaws more keenly and don't necessarily want to go further with the couple anymore.

So, if I can get over myself about the first two, the fic comes at the third differently enough, and the fourth doesn't hold, then I can read fic for that couple. But there are that not many canon couple that I can do it with.

[(Anonymous)]

A ship becoming canon by itself won't turn me off of it, it's how they're written and handled after that will determine if I'll still like it and for the most part I've been fine with my gone-canon ships after they went canon, there's only been a few where I've not liked what was done with them.

But then I also think I'm just easy to please with canon ships as I'll ship them when they're canon from the get-go as well. For me shipping has never been about wanting to see non-canon ships but to add more to what I already like in the canon, so if I'm enjoying a canon ship, I'll want fic about them too.

[(Anonymous)]

I think this is pretty normal, especially for people who like romance stories (which, given the size of that genre, is probably a significant portion of the population). Liking a "romance story" i.e. a story largely focused on the tension and relationship development/movement between two characters is a different thing than liking "seeing people in romantic relationships" i.e. following the daily life of people who are romantically involved with each other, even if the latter is, I suppose, the desired endpoint of the former! While I find the former quite gripping and entertaining, I find the latter boring (often actively cloying, even), so once the characters get together, it's replacing plotlines I enjoy with ones I find meh. There's a reason why a lot of romances end shortly after the couple gets together! And rarely have sequels!

And that's not even including all the stories where, after the couple gets together, they just don't know what to do with the characters -- either the characters have nothing to do or their relationship is filled with unnecessary (and honestly kinda depressing) drama. Or the ones where the part where they get together is painfully bad (contrived, underwhelming, unrealistic, out-of-character, rushed, etc. etc.). I wouldn't enjoy established relationship anyway, but also some canons have actively made me hate the characters and the relationship once they got together...

But yeah, for me at least, the problem is the more fundamental one I mentioned: I like seeing relationship development and characters dancing around each other. Once the relationship is static and resolved, I'm *yawn*. It's not bad; it's just nowhere near my top 100 things I enjoy seeing in fiction.

[(Anonymous)]

AH me too. And this is why I'm actually glad destiel ended up in that shitstorm. We know for a fact now that Castiel is in love with Dean (it was written in the show since at least season 8 so it wasn't really news but OMFG was it nice to have explicit textual confirmation), but we don't know about Dean so we can speculate and write them getting together and pining all we want. We don't have a boring kiss or reunion scenes on screens so we can dream any scenario we want.
The fandom actually exploded and we have a healthy number of newcomers 4 years from the finale because the ship is in that fucking awful state of "is it canon or not???" and I love it for us. I'm convinced that the finale was actually the best gift to the fandom (after we collectively suffered brain injury because of the trauma lol) and that if the show would've ended with them being canon the fandom would never be as good as it is now.

The only canon ship I love is Spike/Buffy but it's possibly because it ends up tragically like that (I care only about BTVS show and not angel or the comics) that I find it appealing. It also has some... issues... in the show, so... you know, we gotta fix 'em. It's all about the tragic pining, guys!!!

IDK canon ships that are mostly on good terms just leave me cold. I can appreciate them on the show/book, but I can't really "play" with them so no real interest from me. /shrugs

[randomdrops]

My friend and I debate this a lot. She wants her ships canon and if they don't become canon after awhile (if being teased) she gets angry and boycotts the show. I hate my ships to become canon and if they do I don't boycott but I generally lose all interest and stop watching.