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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2024-11-27 06:57 pm

[ SECRET POST #6536 ]


⌈ Secret Post #6536 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2024-11-28 04:30 pm (UTC)(link)
Eh, I feel the writers (and nonbinary people in general) are in a kind of damned-if-they-do, damned-if-they-don't situation: if they conform to presentation associated with the gender associated with their birth sex, they're misgendered 100% of the time and people think they're not putting enough effort in/just trying to get attention by being "different" when they're "clearly just a wo/man". If they're gender non-conforming or androgynous, they get told they're "stereotypical" and "trying too hard", etc.

Besides which, it's wish fulfillment: like most nerds, irl 90% of the afab nonbinary people I've met are doughy comic artists who are physically weaker than the average cis woman and couldn't run a mile. It's probably fun to play an imposing, athletic person. Just like cis nerds imagine themselves as burly and/or beautiful warriors from their own parents' basements.

(Anonymous) 2024-11-28 05:38 pm (UTC)(link)
Except that this is always the route they go, they don't even try to do things differently.

(Anonymous) 2024-11-28 07:37 pm (UTC)(link)
I get you, I've seen the same pattern, I'm just saying there would be pushback either way.

It's certainly not helping the "nonbinary person = gnc girl with short hair" stereotype, though. I would also love to see a fem afab nonbinary character or a masc amab one.

Let theyfabs be beautiful! lmao

(Anonymous) 2024-11-28 07:49 pm (UTC)(link)
When they do people ignore it, tho? Owl House has one that's more masc, Double Trouble is definitely not at all butch, Knights is Knights, Kris and Frisk both lean androgynous to masc... Like. Don't make shit up??? This is just off the top of my head.

(Anonymous) 2024-11-28 09:37 pm (UTC)(link)
Owl House - not really. No idea who Knights is. Kris and Frisk aren't so much nonbinary as they are blank slates the player can project themselves onto. Also, super reduced pixel graphics aren't really a great indicator.

(Anonymous) 2024-11-29 01:06 am (UTC)(link)
Knights form Knights Into Dreams, and no. Toby Fox consistently uses they/them and corrects people misgendering both Chara and Frisk, and how the fuck is Raine a big buff tomboy?

(Anonymous) 2024-11-29 10:22 am (UTC)(link)
Afaik, that character's name is Nights, not Knights, and the character is also not afab, so it doesn't count here. Chara and Frisk - nope, my point still stands and I'm pretty sure it was officially stated thus as well. And Raine... eh, based on the show's style, debatable. The character even has the stereotypical fucking mullet.

(Anonymous) 2024-11-28 07:52 pm (UTC)(link)
...Acht from Splatoon is not what I'd call a buff tomboy but go off I guess? I'm actually having trouble recalling canon enbies who do follow the buff tomboy look.