[ SECRET POST #6563 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #6563 ⌋

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Re: +1

[(Anonymous)]

Wicked

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[(Anonymous)]

Dorothy is the hero and the book Wicked in particular is very charitable towards her. It isn't really a stretch to say 'what if the guy who lied in order to take over a fantastical country and sent a child to kill his most dangerous enemy' might actually not be a good person.

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[(Anonymous)]

The Wizard is no hero in the original.

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[philstar22]

But he's never a straight up villain, even in the first book. And by a few books in, when he returns, he definitely is a hero.

Also, the animal rights thing was never in the books. All sapient beings were treated equally. So throwing that in just to demonize Oz in general was stupid.

DA

[(Anonymous)]

Even if he's not treated as one in-text, "guy who lied in order to take over a fantastical country and sent a child to kill his most dangerous enemy" sounds like villain behavior to me. I think that's what the other anon(s) are saying about the difference between a shift in viewpoints and actually rewriting the story. Nothing about the original shows the Wizard is anything close to good, in fact it shows him to be pretty awful; he just isn't treated that way from the story's perspective, so it's not like a stretch or rewrite to imagine he'd be above doing the things he does in Wicked.

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[(Anonymous)]

Haven't seen any version of Wicked, but it seems there's plenty room to demonize Glenda or the Good Witch because they don't have any backstory. Except that they protected the Munchkins.

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[(Anonymous)]

Glinda doesn't really get demonized in Wicked, she's more treated as someone who decided she was willing to overlook oppression of an outside group for the sake of her own comfort. The musical especially treats her fairly sympathetically even though it criticizes her.

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[(Anonymous)]

That's not a fair read. Even in context in the musical, she's basically realizing in Defying Gravity that she's nowhere near as good as Elphaba and will drag her down. Her staying is one that would see her imprisoned.

But Morrible and the Wizard re good at spinning things and she bites.