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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2024-12-25 07:06 pm

[ SECRET POST #6564 ]


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(Anonymous) 2024-12-26 01:40 pm (UTC)(link)
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"i don't like him anymore, it would send me for a loop if i didn't like a rl poc so he's white now"

I wouldn't be surprised if this is what's going on for some people. For others, however, it's mostly a complete misunderstanding of how people behave in authoritarian regimes. They object to the apathy you mention, framing it as an example of his privilege, and as evidence that he's been written as white (even though you're absolutely correct: the show presents him as what may be the last surviving member of a non-white indigenous people). Their position is that a true marginalized person would know that he's oppressed, and would therefore be engaged in resistance from the outset. This is part of what makes 'Rogue One' Cassian more palatable, as in that film, we're given the impression that he's been fighting since he was 6 years old (whether they should have completely changed his backstory between the film and the show is an entirely different discussion).

In real life, of course, marginalization and oppression can induce apathy, particularly in an authoritarian context. There's a sense that it's too big, too powerful, that the regime's surveillance and control are too complete; that any resistance is, well, futile. I once heard the feeling described as like being an egg in front of a tank. If you come to believe that anything you do is just going to get you (and possibly your friends and family) crushed, without making a dent in the power you've stood against, then yes, your point of view is going to develop into something akin to apathy. Fandom's view is removed from this, far more romanticized - which is a shame, because it caused them to miss entirely what the show was trying to portray.

(Anonymous) 2024-12-26 08:47 pm (UTC)(link)
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It would be a misunderstanding if they were open to hearing that maybe the conclusions they've jumped to are wrong, when there definitely are real examples of people reacting to oppression in the way you're describing. When they've got a stereotype of what makes a character a "good, worthy" little underdog, and if the character's behavior deviates from that script, fans promptly reclassify them as an icky privileged person, that's something else.
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[personal profile] meadowphoenix 2024-12-27 05:10 am (UTC)(link)
i could definitely see it as ignorance, but i wonder if the doubling-down is post-emotion justification. for an audience that is used to valorizing male heroes who behave heroically, it can be a let down to see that that's not happening, and tbqf it's possible Diego Luna isn't white enough ironically for fandom to have a "justify everything" attitude that would allow some nuance.