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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2025-01-04 02:18 pm

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Re: Adaptations you never want to see again

(Anonymous) 2025-01-04 11:32 pm (UTC)(link)
Curious as a fan of the LotR movies (not the hobbit) what you dislike about them so much? Just everything?

I have only read the books once and was sadly a little bored with them, but I enjoyed the movies well enough when they came out. Have never rewatched them though.

Re: Adaptations you never want to see again

(Anonymous) 2025-01-05 01:25 am (UTC)(link)
Pretty much everything, yes. I've read and loved the books so many times, and I grew up a few miles from where Tolkien did and even Hobbiton looked wrong. So I got off on the wrong foot right away.

Then there were the alterations they made to the plot which didn't add up, and to the characters and their motivations (Gimli and Denethor were just the tip of a very large iceberg.) Sets were wrong - Rohan a blasted heath, more or less, and where were Minas Tirith's farmlands? Small details like that, easily fixed if they could be bothered. The seeming three months they spent on Cirith Ungol and the afternoon they spent crossing Mordor...

Some of the scenery was nice, and I'm not just talking about Sean Bean.

But Tolkien sold the rights, etc etc, and Disney will be kept at bay for a while, so that's good.
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Re: Adaptations you never want to see again

[personal profile] philstar22 2025-01-05 03:21 am (UTC)(link)
I totally, totally get this. I feel like I should be this way. And I do go through times where I nitpick and get annoyed at little things. And there are adaptions where I feel this way (Wizard of Oz). And yet, as many issues as they have, when it comes to Tolkien Adaptions, I just want to be in Middle Earth. Even a really distorted version still makes me happy.

But I totally get you OP, and they do get so much wrong.

Re: Adaptations you never want to see again

(Anonymous) 2025-01-05 03:22 am (UTC)(link)
other anon who agrees with ayrt: everything sums it up. Jackson claims to be a fan but I feel all these years later that he was only ever a fan of the aesthetic, not the themes or the writing. If he understood Tolkien's themes there would not have been elves at Helm's Deep, among other things. It's not like the things he got wrong were changing otherwise unfilmable scenes, he just chose to film it some bizzaro my-vision way instead of as written. It's like once he started tweaking it to add more Hollywood blockbuster, the more it had to keep being tweaked so the early tweaks didn't unravel the whole sweater.

I had a storyboarding class in college (well before the movies came out) and one of the assignments was to storyboard a scene from a book. I chose Weathertop. Even wrote the camera directions exactly as written, panning past the fire to the silhouettes on the side of the hill... The movie scene was nothing like it. I got an A on that btw.

Sure, maybe they were banking on the blockbuster to make back all that money spent, but I do agree with ayrt that it did get people to read the books, and it does keep Disney away, but the changes are just something I can't with. Ever.

Re: Adaptations you never want to see again

(Anonymous) 2025-01-05 07:29 am (UTC)(link)
Even wrote the camera directions exactly as written, panning past the fire to the silhouettes on the side of the hill... The movie scene was nothing like it. I got an A on that btw.

Tolkien was a very visual writer - and he knew an awful (I choose the word carefully) lot about battles, both ancient and modern. Why PJ felt the need to mess with any of this is beyond me.