[ SECRET POST #6586 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #6586 ⌋

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

I dunno if this is racist per se, but this comes off as not knowing much about African history or the African continent and the variety therein. Also as not knowing much about Asia, if you think monarchy and European climates were the norm and it didn't have tons and tons and TONS of tribal societies and tropics, with shamans all over the place. The word shaman is literally from Asia...

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[(Anonymous)]

idk what's going on with Chinese fantasy at present except that a lot of westernized concepts have really been leaking into it, but most other Asian countries have mythologies that predate even Greek and Roman myths with fascinating pantheons, concepts, and characters, including demigods mapped onto actual historical personages. the first fantasy books were definitely written in China and Japan, before England even existed (Romance of the Three Kingdoms and the Tale of Genji). OP throwing Asia as a monolith in with Europe is just weird.

just curious

[(Anonymous)]

Did you read it as them saying Asia and Europe were the same? Or are you saying Asia and Europe shouldn't be referred to as a monolith but should be broken down into specific areas/histories?

ayrt

[(Anonymous)]

I do read the secret as suggesting they like "Asian" "non-tribal/shamanistic" settings along with western european, which is bonkers to me since Asian settings are very different from European and can be, as airt said, tribal and shamanistic. But you do have a point that monoliths should be broken down. I feel like a lot of sword-and-sorcery high fantasy is distinctly English/French based with the barest smattering of Germanic and Renaissance Italian, but almost never Norse, nor Eastern European, not even Spanish. Whether it's the history of the region, its culture however changed or influenced by other cultures, or the mythological bases that underly a lot of fantasy, there's so much to work with everywhere in the world.

But, then, I go back to the secret and OP putting Asian AND Western European fantasy together that leaves me scratching my head, wondering which Asian fantasy they mean.

[(Anonymous)]

da but they specifically said "landscape," which to me indicates the physical setting.

[(Anonymous)]

"I like monarchies and kingdoms in the western and Asian style"
"I don't like tribal settings or shamanistic religions or magic at all"

???

[(Anonymous)]

"I like the landscape of Europe, Britain and Asia more than Africa. IMO, it's just a prettier backdrop for stories."

[(Anonymous)]

Correct. That too was in the secret along with the other parts which you didn't address yet.

[(Anonymous)]

Are shaman figures in Asia much like shaman figures in Africa? I'd love to know some examples in real life or fiction.

[(Anonymous)]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regional_forms_of_shamanism#Eurasia

[(Anonymous)]

This list doesn't even include places like Thailand

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thai_folklore