[ SECRET POST #6593 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #6593 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.


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[Catcher in the Rye]



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[Yarimono]



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Notes:

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Comments

[fscom]

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[Catcher in the Rye]

[(Anonymous)]

Wait... what are you talking about? What happened to him?

[greghousesgf]

his brother died

[(Anonymous)]

I remember that, but I never thought it was the root cause of his issues.

[greghousesgf]

it certainly seemed to me to be at least partly the root cause, he seemed to be very close to his brother

[(Anonymous)]

That's certainly a big part of his trauma, but it always seemed to me that he was mostly having a crisis about becoming an adult and having to deal with all the mind games ("phoniness") that entails. But part of what makes it such an interesting novel IMO is that his character could be interpreted many different ways.

[(Anonymous)]

brb time traveling to grip your teenage self by the shoulders and telling them "you don't need a reason to be depressed. brains are stupid piles of meat powered by electricity and sometimes they don't work right. store bought hormones and chemicals are okay--just because your brain doesn't make them doesn't mean we can't get you some replacements. also eat some fruit and smetimes go lay in the grass and look at the sky and listen to every lud CD your parents are so mad at you listening to, because that's also good for you, like, emotionally. it's okay."

also telling you this too.

[(Anonymous)]

SA "loud", dammit.

[philstar22]

OP, you don't have to have a reason for depression. There are a lot of causes. Genetics can play a part. Lots of things can play a part. Yes, trauma and other things can make it happen. But sometimes there is no clear cause. You don't have to have an excuse. Mental health is health. Depression is a sickness as much as the flu is.

[(Anonymous)]

I always thought the point was that he didn’t have a reason, he just had an excuse. It’s why so many identify with it; what he was feeling was typical run of the mill teen angst.

[(Anonymous)]

Good comment is good.

[(Anonymous)]

Did you really call depression "typical run of the mill teen angst"? Or do you just think he didn't actually have depression? You're wrong either way. You sound like one of those who thinks the "reason" to have depression is being a good or likable person who has bad things happen to them. So nobody you like could possibly have depression and you can conveniently brush them off as whiny bitches.

[(Anonymous)]

"...nobody you DON'T like." Forgot the "don't."

[(Anonymous)]

I never knew he had depression. And it’s been 30 years since I read it. The comments before mine, that I didn’t read until after I posted my comment, are the first time I’ve ever seen it stated anywhere that he had depression. Teen angst was literally the one and only interpretation of it for decades, and remains the common interpretation from everything I can find on Google.

[(Anonymous)]

Teen angst was definitely the interpretation when I was in high school.

[(Anonymous)]

DA

The book doesn’t indicate it was clinical depression. The secret doesn’t even overtly reference clinical depression.

AYRT is overreacting and projecting their issues onto your innocuous comment.

[(Anonymous)]

A book written in the 1940s about a teenager doesn't directly say "this teenager has clinical depression"? I'm shocked. People write things they don't have names for. Everyone who has been diagnosed with depression recognizes it for what it would now be known as today. Yeah, it's projecting. It's not bad to project when you know what you see because it's your lived experience.

[epicurean]

Sometimes you don't need a reason to be depressed, nonnie. Sometimes it just happens.

Wishing you the best. <333

I never understood...

[(Anonymous)]

why anyone liked this book. There was one good scene, and it was way too short. The whole book should've been people punching Holden.

Re: I never understood...

[(Anonymous)]

Agreed

Re: I never understood...

[(Anonymous)]

Probably like OP, most Americans read it as teenagers and we identified with an obnoxious depressed teenager acting out and calling everything bullshit and phony. Different strokes.

Re: I never understood...

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah, that's when I (also an American) read it, too.

Re: I never understood...

[(Anonymous)]

Your favorite scene was when the annoying guy got punched by a date rapist?

Re: I never understood...

[(Anonymous)]

Don't remember him being a date rapist (its been 30 years since I read it), but yeah, anyone punching Holden gets a thumbs-up from me. Swiftly followed by an ass-kicking for being a date rapist.

Re: I never understood...

[(Anonymous)]

He gets punched twice. Once by a date rapist and once by a pimp. The violence in the book is directly related to the sexual assault and exploitation of women.

Not arguing in favor of Holden, but this was clearly a sore point for him, annoying whiny asshole that he was.