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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2025-02-01 03:26 pm

[ SECRET POST #6602 ]


⌈ Secret Post #6602 ⌋

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Re: Ukraine's Army is Quiet Quitting

(Anonymous) 2025-02-02 05:25 pm (UTC)(link)
I get that it is a political thing for you to defend against admission that Ukraine is losing with accusations of bad faith, but that is exactly what the article is saying. The only contradictory part is a Ukrainian government minister denying it is happening and then saying it isn't a problem anyway because she is making changes to stop it (like expanding the draft to shore up falling troop numbers), but that they need Ukraine's Western Allies to commit soldiers if they are to win. The article then interviews the soldiers who have deserted, whether by injury, mental and physical, or just through defeatism and going back to their farms who say that no changes would induce them to return to the fight that they believe is already lost.

I get you don't like that, and want to brand anyone who says that as a traitor. But it is still the unpleasant truth. Ukraine has basically already lost, and even its own soldiers believe it.

What it doesn't mention, although you can find it on other articles on the Guardian site, is that Zelensky is coming under increasing pressure from within and without to hold elections and stop presiding as a dictator himself. His term expired last year, and he has refused to hold new elections even as his popularity falls. He's certainly learned a thing or two from Putin, which is another reason for the desertions as Ukrainian soldiers think that democracy is now dead in Ukraine and they are fighting for just another post-Soviet strongman.

Re: Ukraine's Army is Quiet Quitting

(Anonymous) 2025-02-02 07:00 pm (UTC)(link)
No, I don't think you get what I'm saying at all. You are making assumptions and pretending I don't like valid criticisms. I dislike it when things are presented out of context, and then twisted as though it were the entire truth.

And here you are, pushing your agenda further.

Re: Ukraine's Army is Quiet Quitting

(Anonymous) 2025-02-02 07:09 pm (UTC)(link)
I am sorry for repeating exactly what is being reported by credible news orgs, and I am sorry that you are not able to provide examples of what you claim is incorrect.

Re: Ukraine's Army is Quiet Quitting

(Anonymous) 2025-02-02 07:29 pm (UTC)(link)
Let's not pretend you know the meaning of sorry.

You know exactly what you are doing.

All you did was read the last paragraph of that article and present it as the entire truth.