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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2025-03-06 05:31 pm

[ SECRET POST #6635 ]


⌈ Secret Post #6635 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2025-03-06 11:19 pm (UTC)(link)
…but this place is full of I Hate Ten whovians?
And when Eleven was on, at least a quarter of fandom activity was Ten fans hating on Eleven.
I don’t think Twelve got it as much simply because the audience had shrunk A LOT by that point. But Thirteen and Fifteen both had a change of showrunner so people tuned back in to see if it was something they liked again. This is particularly true with Fifteen because it was the return of RTD who had a built in fanbase.

(Anonymous) 2025-03-06 11:38 pm (UTC)(link)
I mean, I hate everything from 9 onwards, so...*shrug*

(Anonymous) 2025-03-07 12:32 am (UTC)(link)
But lots of people think Smith and Capaldi were bad Doctors. Hell, plenty of people think Ten is overrated and kind of bad, and that Nine was the only good Doctor out of the whole New!Who era.

(Anonymous) 2025-03-07 01:25 am (UTC)(link)
In my opinion, although there was definitely bad writing in Nine, Ten, Eleven, and Twelve's seasons, it wasn't as predominant, and we still had a clear idea of who each Doctor was as an individual. In Thirteen and Fifteen's era, well written episodes were much rarer. Fifteen specifically had the disadvantage of being barely in two of the episodes in his first season, so it's extra hard to get a sense of his Doctor.

Having said that, I've never said any of the modern Doctors are "bad Doctors," just that they've been let down by the writing.

(Anonymous) 2025-03-07 04:00 am (UTC)(link)
I generally stay away from the Who fandom, barring bursts of fic reading or reblogging gifsets, but my biggest complaint with Whittaker has always been the writing. I think Jodie was doing her absolute best and she just was not given a whole lot to work with.

I really liked Broadchurch's first series so I was hopeful, but while Chibnall writes murder mysteries very well, he does not do science fiction very well, and it really, really shows.

Haven't caught up to Gatwa's series yet, and while I like RTD's seasons the best out of New Who I'm also braced for some serious stinkers. (Love and Monsters anyone?) Which, again, is not Gatwa's fault. I liked what I saw of Fifteen in the Giggle and I'm hoping the new series improves on the last one, which was kinda mixed.

(Anonymous) 2025-03-07 04:02 am (UTC)(link)
SA the response to the last season was kinda mixed from what I saw. Thought I should clarify that!

(Anonymous) 2025-03-07 04:31 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, Chibnail's run was just boring and it isn't Jodie's fault.
Latest run really suffered from being too short but Gatwa's Doctor was fun

(Anonymous) 2025-03-07 04:19 am (UTC)(link)
I still think pretty much any other woman would have been a better choice for the Doctor than Jodie Whittaker. Her character was flat as a pancake and tbh Jodie does better in dramas like Broadchurch.
Granted the vast majority of the problems with her time as the Doctor comes down to bad writing choices by Chibnall; pretty much everyone around her was a lot more interesting to watch from the companions own interactions among themselves (would have loved to see Thirteen even have a fraction of onscreen chemistry that the companion group had with each other. Even there-for-10-minutes John Bishop had more interesting interaction with Yaz than the Doctor did with anyone) - to Jo Martin having more presence on screen as a previous Doctor in the bare minimum time she was allowed to be in the show for the most half-arsed Jason Bourne fanfiction implanted into the storyline so that the Doctor could ooooh have secrets.

Also Yaz deserved a better love interest than the fart in the wind Thirteen.

(Anonymous) 2025-03-07 05:47 am (UTC)(link)
I'm sorry the Doctors you liked sucked.

I'm even sorrier that you cannot cope with that without attacking other fans.

Signed, an old BakerC Doctor fan.
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[personal profile] thewakokid 2025-03-07 07:55 am (UTC)(link)
Real talk: I don't blame Whittaker or Gatwa. They did what they could with what they were given. The problem really was the writing. And I don't know, I just suspect the trend is something like "Ok, we have a Woman / a black as the doctor. We're bullet proof, We can just phone this season in, and if anyone says shit we can call them racist." Because I DID see people call the Capaldi or the Smith seasons badly written... but I didn't see half as many people come to their defence as with the Whittaker / Gatwa.

Tennant seasons I concede had a couple of duds, but I'll be totally honest David Tennant has such charisma and presence, such a once in a lifetime perfect moment of synergy with actor and character where he could make whippet shit sound like solid gold. It's not because it was well written, it's not because he's white, it's not even that he's a great actor, he's not, it's that he was simply perfect for the part at that time in his life.

(Anonymous) 2025-03-07 01:22 pm (UTC)(link)

And I don't know, I just suspect the trend is something like "Ok, we have a Woman / a black as the doctor. We're bullet proof, We can just phone this season in, and if anyone says shit we can call them racist."

My GAWD that's so fucking true, and I hate it! There's so much media now where it feels like they use the presence of female/LGBT/POC main characters as an excuse to write lazily, and it's insulting. I want representative characters who are written well, in stories that are also written well. Don't shovel shit at me and act like I've got to like it because, "some of the people sitting in the shit look like you!" I'd rather people like me not be relegated to the midden heap, thank you very much.

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[personal profile] thewakokid 2025-03-07 09:17 pm (UTC)(link)
Got nothing to add to this.

(Anonymous) 2025-03-07 09:41 pm (UTC)(link)
You're acting like most media is written well, it isn't, it's written to be fun and that's very subjective. So don't mind me if I find the 'I just want it to be well written!!' complaints to have any merit when we've been watching dog-shit written white, mostly white male media as well, media without any issue but when rep is involved suddenly we care about the quality.

Hm, sure.

(Anonymous) 2025-03-08 02:40 pm (UTC)(link)

Oh, fuck off with your implications.

Yes, I do "just want it to be well written!" No, I am not fine with watching crap, and don't give it a pass when it's white people or men. But even then, if women, POC, and LGBT folks are given even worse scripts than white men, that's a perfectly valid reason to complain, as it's a pretty clear sign of bias by writers, producers, etc.

Eat all the dog shit you want, anon, but that's your own problem.