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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2025-04-02 07:11 pm

[ SECRET POST #6662 ]


⌈ Secret Post #6662 ⌋

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Re: Am I losing my goddamn mind

(Anonymous) 2025-04-03 02:57 am (UTC)(link)
IDEK, but I've been confused since "queer" became the standard catchall self-identifier for people who don't identify as heterosexual.

Re: Am I losing my goddamn mind

(Anonymous) 2025-04-03 03:08 am (UTC)(link)
And it's now somehow totally cool for a cis person who only dates and sleeps with opposite sex cis people to say they're not heterosexual. You can't question it because they'll come up with som way in which they deviate from the Platonic ideal of a straight person, even if it's the tiniest of things, and even if it has no effect on how they live their lives. It honestly feels like what's actually meant by appropriation and increasingly makes me uneasy.

Re: Am I losing my goddamn mind

(Anonymous) 2025-04-03 03:22 am (UTC)(link)
DA but sometimes I feel like heterosexuals calling themselves queer kind of enforces the status quo in a way. Like, straight people who are kinky, poly, etc., there's nothing wrong with that. It's a natural way to be, but calling that "queer" kind of implies the nuclear family model is a natural and just way some people can't help (poly, kinky, ace/aro, etc.) is some intentional rebellion, when it really isn't. I'm speaking this as someone who is aro-ish, open to poly, and gay.

Re: Am I losing my goddamn mind

(Anonymous) 2025-04-03 04:38 pm (UTC)(link)
Under that reasoning, what does it mean if those people are excluded from the “queer umbrella”?

That heterosexual attraction is natural, no matter how it manifests?

And I’m not sure what distinction you’re making about things that people can’t help vs things that are an intentional choice of “rebellion”. Is being gay or trans an intentional rebellion?

Re: Am I losing my goddamn mind

(Anonymous) 2025-04-03 04:50 pm (UTC)(link)
Heterosexuality is natural, non-monogamy is natural, certain kinks can be developed my chance during puberty and thus be a natural sexuality quirk, homo/bisexuality natural, and sex dyphoria / gender nonconformity is natural. I don't see strict monogamy and the nuclear family or other capitalistic constructs as natural. If someone wants to do these things out of choice, good for them, I support autonomy. Get married, be poly, be kinky, transition, whatever, that's your life.

That's what confuses me about the queer thing. What does it mean if someone is or isn't queer? What does someone gain or lose if they are or are not considered this concept? I know some people see these aspects as deeply political and a way to say "no, I won't play by society's rules", but so many heterosexual and LGBT people just want to... live. It's not an activism march or an academic essay.

Re: Am I losing my goddamn mind

(Anonymous) 2025-04-03 08:09 pm (UTC)(link)
"Queer" is a reclaimed slur* against LGBT people specifically. I think it's discomfiting for members of the group that once used it a pejorative for LGBT people while treating them as lesser to use it to describe themselves, particularly since so many do so specifically to try to identify out of being straight. It's not as bad as white people using "n--a," but it has the same valence.

*Of course, there are also many LGBT folks who still view it as a slur, because they've had it used against them in that way. Imagine the straight chick who derisively called you "queer" in high school declaring in middle age that, despite only ever having heterosexual relationships, and marrying a man, and benefiting her whole life from presenting and living as straight, she's "queer" and belongs in LGBT spaces with you.