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⌈ Secret Post #1005 ⌋

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[Albert Ellis/Carl Rogers]

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[Soul Eater]

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[Loony Toons]

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[Glee]

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[Dreamcatcher]

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[Dollhouse]

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[Air Force One]

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[Folklore]

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[Final Fantasy 9/Phoenix Wright/Mega Man/Gurren Lagann]

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[Patrick Stewart/Jeremy Northam/Hugh Laurie/Cary Grant]

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112. [too big]

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[07-Ghost]

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[Supernatural]

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[Charm School]

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[Avatar]

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[Bosom Buddies]

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[Fame]

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[X-Factor]

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[Kev and Alice]

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[Tsubasa: Reservoir Chronicle]

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[Scott Gairdner]

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[Zero Punctuation, Guitar Hero World Tour, Neon Genesis Evangelion]

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[Questionable Content]

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[Homeward Bound]

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[Supernatural/Pita-Ten]

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127.

[Lena Headey]

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[Veronica Mars]

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[Last Days, deleted scene]

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[Supernatural, The Amazing Race]

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[The Dresden Files]

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[Song of Ice and Fire]

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[The Vampire Diaries]

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[Supernatural]

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[Juno]

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[Elijah Wood]

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[Life on Mars]

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[Days of Our Lives]

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[Good Omens]

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[The Mentalist]

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[Supernatural]

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[Lie to Me]

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[Supernatural]

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[Burn Notice]

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[Fullmetal Alchemist]

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[3rd Rock from the Sun]

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[Supernatural]

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[Dr. Horrible's Sing-Along Blog]

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[Song of Ice and Fire]

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[Gyro Gearloose/Uncle Scrooge]

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151. http://i37.tinypic.com/acwnrc.png
[porn... I think?, A Mate]

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Um? y so srs...

I think there's a break in what you think Sam & Dean and Sam/Dean's relationship is. Maybe it's just spite for Sam/Dean shippers, but to assume that it's different aside from the addition of sex is debatable. Most Sam/Dean shippers I've talked to consider that ship as a romantic extrapolation (fandom offshoot) of what's already there in Sam & Dean's foundation.

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llivia's comment, s/he makes a fair point that you deflect because you don't think Sam & Dean and Sam/Dean is on the same grounding fundamentally. Why bring their canon relationship into it at all? Because fandom bases characterization for Sam/Dean from canon. Saying that Dean's miserable with Castiel because it's Dean/Cas and not Sam/Dean makes no sense because Sam is Dean's balance, forget about whether or not it's shippy.

Okay, sure, Sam/Dean is the sexytiems version of canon Sam-Dean. I never said that Dean would have to be without Sam. It can be a D/C+S sort of relationship! One can have a brother AND a lover!

Saying that Dean's miserable with Castiel because it's Dean/Cas and not Sam/Dean makes no sense because Sam is Dean's balance, forget about whether or not it's shippy.

Seconding this. Just going off the canon, I think at this moment in time it's pretty obvious to anyone that not only is Sam still basically Dean's best friend (albeit one who's committed some serious screw-ups recently), but he's still HIS BROTHER. Hell, we've seen what losing John did to Dean, and that was when John was frequently an absent father. Dean and Sam have basically been joined at the hip on-off for years and Dean would not recover from Sam's loss easily, if at all, especially if - given Dean knows the beginnings of the apocalypse started on account of his breaking in Hell - he's going to be blaming himself for it and then swimming in denial for weeks/months/years.

Castiel's still to all intents and purposes a friend to Dean, and not a best one yet either - they've got the potential to be best friends but their relationship (and even as a Dean/Castiel shipper I happily admit this) is still in its beginning stages. Losing Sam would cock it up royally at this moment in time because at this moment in time Dean is still dependent on Sam whether he likes it or not, and they need to work on making their relationship healthier.

But that's my tl;dr tuppenceworth. I love Dean/Sam and I love Dean/Castiel but it's daft to think that at this moment in time losing Sam wouldn't change the progression of Dean/Castiel's relationship when Sam's still such an integral part of Dean's life :X.

Thiiiis. Dean even states it outright at the end of the ep (You're my brother, we're all we've got, etc.), in contrast to his distancing himself from Sam in the first couple episodes. I think by the time Sam called him in the beginning of 5.04, he was already healing and hurting because he was apart from Sam and he thought it was the only way to go at that point (in his mind). It's like back in Shadow, when he said John would be safer without them, then switching to Sam's side in Dead Man's Blood.

You make a good point about John and Sam and Dean's relationship to both. Without Sam, Dean doesn't really have much to stop him from spinning out of control, like we saw in 5.04 (and okay, while it was VERY LIKELY that future was fake cuz, let's face it, it was Zachariah that sent him there). Simply removing Sam from the equation is only fodder for his self loathing.

Tangentially, I don't necessarily think Dean could be stabilized by John as equally as Sam, either. Under John, Dean would always feel like he has to prove himself and would follow John's orders unconditionally. And Sam, similarly, was kind of a subordinate to Dean in the way only a little brother could be, but the way their relationship is shaping up to be now, they're becoming peers finally. Dean's going to have to give Sam space to rise up to an equal level, as he resisted Sam's proactive attitude in season 4 (imo he was uncomfortable with Sam making decisions for himself as much as he was uncomfortable with the decisions themselves).

With Castiel, I agree, Dean and he are still growing into each other. Castiel's only really been firmly on Dean's side since the last few minutes of Lucifer Rising, though before that, he'd been leaning further and further. He's been gaining a lot of trust with Dean lately, sure, and 5.04 is solidifying the foundations even more, but it's nowhere near his dependency on Sam.

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