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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2025-06-09 05:51 pm

[ SECRET POST #6730 ]


⌈ Secret Post #6730 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2025-06-09 11:21 pm (UTC)(link)
Haven't seen either version, but I'm curious what "cultural norms" means here in relationship to interpreting her as autistic.

Cultural norms that are mistaken for autistic traits (by outsiders)?
Cultural norms that could make autistic traits more or less obvious?

(Anonymous) 2025-06-09 11:33 pm (UTC)(link)
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It’s cultural norms being taken as autistic traits. There was a post going around a couple weeks ago claiming that she’s autistic because she has weird interests like hula dancing and Elvis music.” Both are pretty normal plus in the wider L&S canon we see that both are tied to her late parents.

(Anonymous) 2025-06-09 11:45 pm (UTC)(link)
Thanks, I definitely get why that's vexing.

(I'm generally frustrated by the people who assume lots of hobbies and interests are actually autistic hyperfixations.)

(Anonymous) 2025-06-10 05:20 pm (UTC)(link)
DA But I'm pretty fed up with that too. And the flip side to their trying to insist that a bunch of flawed-but-attractive fictional characters, like Lilo, are or "must be" autistic, is marginalizing real autistic people who suffer from more serious physical and mental disabilities.

A young boy in my extended family is autistic. He finally mastered using a toilet as an eight year old, and compared to the way he and his parents struggle, the people online who talk about neurodiversity and how autism hasn't *disabled* anyone ... seem like they somehow got their headaches diagnosed as a brain tumor. And then decided that makes perfect sense, and it's their purpose in life to "represent" autism!! To the point that plenty of uninvolved people hear the word, and think of a university-bound, socially awkward eccentric.

There are rational, pragmatic reasons to have words that clarify the difference between an autistic person who can mostly do things for themselves and an autistic person who can't; and requires an able-bodied, neurotypical carer from birth to death and a padded helmet to avoid concussing themselves. But the people who would not have known they were autistic without specialized testing throw huge tantrums, on social media, at the prospect of anyone talking about the fact that profound disability exists, matters, and is not identical to what they have.