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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2025-07-13 02:10 pm

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(Anonymous) 2025-07-14 11:45 am (UTC)(link)
I mean, just because you're apparently too ignorant to recognize obvious Neonazis it doesn't mean everyone else just imagines they're there. I don't have to be "solid enough in my perception of reality to accurately recognise them for what they are" - it's not a guessing game when they wear literal nazi slogan shirts, have swastika and related tattoos and carry literal nazi slogan signs. You can, of course, dunk your own head in the sand and pretend that all those clear neonazi groups are not real because you don't want them libs to be right and you can pretend that everyone who calls a nazi a nazi is just victim of some mass delusion but that would say much more about you than about anyone else.
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[personal profile] thewakokid 2025-07-14 12:06 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, if you insist that I'm out of touch with reality for NOT recognizing that those windmills are actually giants in disguise, and that I'm actually just too ignorant to realise how delusional I am... And I insist that you are out of touch with reality for NOT recognizing that those giants are actually just windmills, and that you're actually just too brainwashed, psy-opped, and fear mongered to realise how delusional you are...

Well then we're at an impasse. One of us is dangerously unhealthily and irrevocably disconnected with reality, and cannot be saved without help from a significant outside force.

And I wont deny that it COULD be me, and I would never know it. And whether you admit it or not it could be you and YOU would never know it.

But everywhere I look, I see the stupid, the misled, the people who torture themselves. And everywhere YOU look you see monsters.

I am happy with my side of this bargain.
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(Anonymous) 2025-07-14 01:18 pm (UTC)(link)
A literal swastika tattooed, Club 88 shirt wearing, racial purity spouting skinhead who wants to burn refugee homes to the ground is not a harmless little granny disguised as a neonazi, that's a neonazi. They're not misunderstood, they're intentionally assholes. Like, I don't even know why you keep denying that there are plenty of very obviously recognisable neonazis around and keep insisting that they're all just some conspiracy theory collective delusion cooked up by people who ~confuse windmills for giants~.
I have to ask, do you really believe literal, obvious neonazi are not actually neonazis? What is you cognitive problem here?
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[personal profile] thewakokid 2025-07-14 01:58 pm (UTC)(link)
"I don't even know why you keep denying that there are plenty of very obviously recognisable neonazis around"

Well, I guess its because I lived through, and am still living IN the "Pepe, Milk, The OK symbol, The maltese cross, the UK officers cap that just looked a little too much like something an SS officer might have worn, Kurosaki Ichigos Hilt Guard, Anything norse, Pewdiepie, Blondness, Elon Musk, The Pickelhaube helmet, the red cap etc, c, c. are all literally nazi symbols and any association with any of them males you an actual literal neonazi, why dont you believe me bigot!" Era of discourse .

You show me the guy you're painting such a vivid picture of, and the picture actually MATCHES the description in word AND spirit, and I will agree we got a nazi on our hands. You show me a guy in a wheelchair with the maltese cross that some fucking journo convinced you was an Iron cross, or some fucking guy in a pepe t-shirt waving a Kekistan flag and go through his associates play 6 degrees of Adolph Hitler, and not so much. Because if you still think what Elon did was a Roman salute, an open or veiled admission of nazihood and your pointing at it like "Look, Loooook, Its the 4th 5th and 6th reich" we do not share a reality.

The fucked thing is, the nazis are out there, they absolutely exist I dont deny that. But the demand for them seems to BADLY outstrip the supply. Its unironically "Hitler appeared to me in my toast" levels of desperation from you chaps.

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(Anonymous) 2025-07-14 02:17 pm (UTC)(link)
So just because you have some dumbass fandom PTSD regarding faux Nazi symbols you just assume everyone else has it too, okay.
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[personal profile] thewakokid 2025-07-14 02:26 pm (UTC)(link)
"So what your saying is..."

No, I'm saying its because even tho you can paint a damn fine picture of an unambiguous nazi, you never seem to be able to find a real one. It's always - ALWAYS - "Just squint your eyes, use your imagination, and trust us the green frog means hes a nazi, for real this time" Always and every time.

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(Anonymous) 2025-07-14 02:48 pm (UTC)(link)
No I actually see them quite a lot during rallies but sure, you can obviously just stick you fingers in your ear and cry "lalala I can't hear nor see you, if I don't believe it it can't be true".

Like, maybe you're just... lucky or unfortunate, based on your own political views, that you haven't ever seen an actual unambiguous neonazi in your life but you can't just stand there and insist it's the same for everyone.
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[personal profile] thewakokid 2025-07-14 03:01 pm (UTC)(link)
I in fact CAN insist that. Because Literally every time I am presented with a "Look at this Nazi this is why my ideology of fear and hate is justified, why isn't everyone as terrified and tortured as me, youre all mad! Mad and blind and delusional!" it never EVER looks like the guy you described.

Eventually the guy who is explaining why he spends all his time in the woods by showing me his collection of bigfoot photos that turned out to be bears might have to accept he will need something better if he wants me to stop insisting hes wasting his time.

And in this analogy I'm not even saying big foot isnt real, just that hes not around enough to justify the wasted weekends.

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(Anonymous) 2025-07-14 03:15 pm (UTC)(link)
Except you're doing the exact same thing, just in reverse. You're the weird flat earther who gets all the evidence the earth being round only to still stubbornly insist that no, the world ISN'T round, in fact it's flat and everyone else is just lying and trying to convince you of something that's not true.
You get plenty of evidence of people - yes even the one who look like literal skinhead neonazis but let's not for a second pretend that those are the only nazis there are - doing nazi shit and quoting nazi propaganda and you still go "hmm, no, I don't think so, this must be one of those false flags those hysterical libs keep trhowing out, no way this verbatim nazi quote means this person has some nazi ideology going on".

Sure, you can keep whining and moving the goalpost for just how much radical right wing ideology makes a nazi so you never actually have to admit that maybe someone was right about it but that doesn't mean there are not enough nazis to warrant concern. It just means you're priviledged enough to not be concerned.
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[personal profile] thewakokid 2025-07-14 03:34 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, you think I'm a delusional lunatic and I think you're one, and one of us will have to admit we're wrong at some point.

Either I end my days in a nazi gas chamber and have the last few moments of regret thinking "I should have taken them more seriously, I wasted my life!" Or you'll die in your 90's in relative peace and comfort and with the "It was all for nothing, they years of pain and self torture. I wasted my life tilting at windmills" realisation.

I mean really, is there anything I could say that will make you even consider that your world view MIGHT be warped by psyops getting into your head?

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(Anonymous) 2025-07-14 03:43 pm (UTC)(link)
Nowhere in any of my posts did I insist that Nazis are a majority, ruling the world and building new gas chambers. That's all on you and in your head - maybe stop insinuating things people never wrote and making shit up and start actually practising some reading comprehension.
The only thing I wrote to start this off was "Hating Nazis is kinda okay, actually" and I stand by that. Your whole sermon about windmills and "omg silly deluded lib, the nazis aren't real" - that was all you.