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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2009-10-24 03:46 pm

[ SECRET POST #1023 ]


⌈ Secret Post #1023 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

101.


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102.
[Sr. Wooly]


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103.
[Glee]


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104.
[Chuck]


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105.
[Supernatural]


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106.
[Heroes]


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107.
[Alice In Wonderland]


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108.
[Glee]


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109.
[Left 4 Dead]


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110.
[Dissidia Final Fantasy]


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111.
[Heroes/Pushing Daisies]


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112.
[Glee]


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113.
[The Frog Princess]


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114.
[Metanoia]


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115.
[Oliver and Company]


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116.
[The Big Bang Theory]


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117.
[Legally Blonde the Musical]


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118.
[Casper's Scare School]


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119.
[Gundam 00]


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120.
[Jerkcity]


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121.
[Dark Angel]


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122.
[Parks and Recreation, Glee]


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123.
[Glee]


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124.
[Heroes/Stargate: Atlantis]


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125.
[Muse]


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126.
[Rurouni Kenshin]


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127.
[Supernatural]


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128.
[Warriors Orrochi]


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129.
[The Dresden Files]


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130.
[Supernatural]


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131.
[TTGL]


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132.
[Fairy Tail]


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133.
[Melrose Place]


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134.
[Supernatural]


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135.
[Skins]


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136.
[Glee]


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137.
[Supernatural]


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138.
[Pretear]


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139.
[Hellblazer/Supernatural]


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140.
[Honey and Clover]


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141.
[Supernatural/CWRPS, Boston Legal]


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142.
[Supernatural]


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143.
[The Incredibles]


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144.
[xkcd]


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145.
[Harry Potter]


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146.
[Hugh Laurie]


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147.
[Supernatural]


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148.
[Zombieland]


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149.
[Lindsay Lohan]


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150.
[Harry Potter]


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151.
[Lufia 2]


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152.
[How I Met Your Mother]


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153.
[Supernatural]


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154.
[Zombieland]


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155.
[Heroes/Supernatural]


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156.
[Supernatural]


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157.
[Sailor Moon]


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158.
[Code Geass]


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159.
[Glee]


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160.
[Bones]


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161.
[Utena]


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162.
[Supernatural]


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163.
[Golden Sun]


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164.
[Glee]


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165.
[Avatar]


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166.
[Glee]


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167.
[Eureka]


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168.
[Sakurai Takahiro, Toshiyuki Morikawa]


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169.
[Avatar]


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170.
[Silence of the Lambs/Hannibal]


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171.
[Phantom of the Opera]


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172.
[Criminal Minds]


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173.
[Star Trek: The Next Generation]


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174.
[The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya]


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175.
[Okage: Shadow King]


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176.
[Protector of the Small]


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177.
[Tales of Vesperia]


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178.
[White Collar]


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179.
[Marvel/DC]


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180.
[Saint Seiya]


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181.
[College football]


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182.
[Community]


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183.
[When Curiosity Met Insanity/Alice in Wonderland]


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184.
[Emma Pillsbury & Lorelai Gilmore]


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185.
[Evil Dead/Blade:Trinity]


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186.
[Supernatural/The Mentalist]Mentalist


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187.
[Sideswipe & Sunstreaker - All Hail Megatron]


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188.
[Hannibal]


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189.
[Gundam 00]


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190.
[demi lovato/selena gomez]


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191.
[Mad Men/Profit]


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192.
[Saint Seiya/Lady Gaga]


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193.
[X-Men]


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194.
[Star Trek XI]


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195.
[Jon Stewart, Stephen Colbert, Ellen DeGeneres]


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196.
[House]


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197.
[Love Actually]


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198.
[Stargate Universe]


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199.
[Castle]



Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 24 pages, 578 secrets from Secret Submission Post #147.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 1 - broken links ], [ 1 2 3 4 - not!secrets ], [ 1 - not!fandom ], [ 1 2 3 4 5 6 - too big ], [ 1 2 3 4 - repeat ], [ 1 2 - doing it wrong ], [ 5 - empty comments ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

[identity profile] succisive.livejournal.com 2009-10-24 10:48 pm (UTC)(link)
Right. Because anonymity isn't enough to discourage somebody from being honest about what actually bothers them about a television show.
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[personal profile] dafna 2009-10-25 08:06 am (UTC)(link)
If that were true, this comm would be a very different (and much less pleasant) place.

[identity profile] succisive.livejournal.com 2009-10-25 11:53 am (UTC)(link)
That doesn't mean this is a case of closet homophobia. If anything, it's a case of somebody not thinking enough.
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[personal profile] dafna 2009-10-25 07:15 pm (UTC)(link)
You may be right, but it's not like the two are mutually exclusive, either.

[identity profile] succisive.livejournal.com 2009-10-25 08:02 pm (UTC)(link)
Le sigh. If you're trying to be cute, I'm not really in a mood to have it, so forgive me. "Not thinking enough" meaning "not stopping to think of the myriad ways it could still work."

[identity profile] succisive.livejournal.com 2009-10-25 08:08 pm (UTC)(link)
That said, I don't really get how the whole "she had to have been birthed from someone" argument works out.

After all, is she a daughter of this woman because she was birthed from her? She wouldn't have the woman's genetic heritage, after all. Lovely philosophical question there.

[identity profile] snackbreak.livejournal.com 2009-10-26 04:52 pm (UTC)(link)
Er, she actually would have the genetics of the woman that birthed her. They needed to get an egg from somewhere and I'm thinking they probably just used the same women for both the egg and the carrying-to-term.

[identity profile] succisive.livejournal.com 2009-10-26 06:49 pm (UTC)(link)
If we're going by "it could happen this way" arguments, I'd like to point out that when you clone something, you remove the haploid chromosome that comes from the mother, and insert the genetic material of what you want to clone.

There are ways to remove the mother's genetic material from the egg.

It would probably just cost a hell of a lot of money.

[identity profile] succisive.livejournal.com 2009-10-26 06:59 pm (UTC)(link)
I didn't say she was.

Sperm don't have complete genetic material anyway. What I'm saying is there might be some extremely expensive way to combine two haploid chromosomes from male sperm. Genetic scientists are all about dicking with nature. Somebody had to have thought of this before me, before now.

[identity profile] snackbreak.livejournal.com 2009-10-26 07:19 pm (UTC)(link)
You presented cloning as a viable option so as to say the fact that she has a genetic mother is only a possibility. It is not merely a possibility because she is clearly not a clone, especially given the fact that the show clearly indicated she was created using artificial insemination.

[identity profile] succisive.livejournal.com 2009-10-26 07:32 pm (UTC)(link)
Isn't that what this whole issue was about; what was or was not said on the show. Canon says she has two dads and is Jewish. People are coming up with reasons for why that could still be even though Judaism, at least traditionally, is matrilineal.

Honey, I didn't say cloning, you just didn't read it right. And frankly, regardless of genetics, she still had to have been *birthed* out of some female's birth canal. Like I said before, it's a philosophical question when it comes to that point. So regardless of whether or not this possibly fictitious genetic dicking-with happened, there was always some artificial insemination going on because I know for a fact we don't have facilities capable of artificially bearing children like in the Matrix. But it'd be a lot simpler to just say she was created using artificial insemination.

...This is entertaining. Best thing ever instead of studying for a midterm.

[identity profile] succisive.livejournal.com 2009-10-26 07:33 pm (UTC)(link)
*I didn't say *she* was cloned

Yes, I talked about cloning. No, I didn't say this character is a human Dolly the sheep.

[identity profile] snackbreak.livejournal.com 2009-10-26 07:36 pm (UTC)(link)
What is also canon is that she was created using artificial insemination. Unless there is some incredibly recent technology that I don't know about (which would be pretty special since my job is fertility related), my point stands.

Also, sweetheart, I have no idea why you're bringing up 90% of what you're talking about, since it is irrelevant.

[identity profile] succisive.livejournal.com 2009-10-26 08:33 pm (UTC)(link)
"unless there is some incredibly recent technology" Then why didn't you say that from the beginning, sweetheart? I was postulating an idea, and you failed to actually contradict it, which means I'll go on with it.

Because I'm bored as hell and you're talking to me? Congratulations.

[identity profile] snackbreak.livejournal.com 2009-10-26 08:37 pm (UTC)(link)
You're obfuscating the point. Repeatedly. The only reason I talked to you in the first place was to point out that she clearly has a genetic mother, which she does. I don't know where all this other crap is coming from, jellybean.

[identity profile] succisive.livejournal.com 2009-10-26 08:41 pm (UTC)(link)
Maybe, but I'm perfectly aware of all points. You should have pointed out that the aforementioned technology doesn't exist, dear. Then I would have backed off of it.

[identity profile] snackbreak.livejournal.com 2009-10-26 08:51 pm (UTC)(link)
How is it my responsibility to point that out, especially since you probably know that given your comment about conjecture? It was irrelevant to the discussion in the first place.

I've had the feeling for a while you've been trolling anyway, and with your comment about being bored I'm almost certain of it, so peace out. Feel free to say whatever, but don't expect a reply. Pumpkin. :D