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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2025-08-12 05:53 pm

[ SECRET POST #6794 ]


⌈ Secret Post #6794 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2025-08-12 11:49 pm (UTC)(link)
I wonder if it's because "feminine" characters are the ones that tend to be portrayed as focused on romance/their love interest, and "masculine" female characters are the ones that have other things going on than their love lives?

I think the issue is that writers tend to write characters in very binary ways, either you're "feminine" and don't have much of a life/personality outside of some man, or you're "masculine" and you're the one fighting the bad guys/saving the world/whatever, not that people automatically dislike femininity or whatever.

For what it's worth, I personally am stereotypically "feminine" and have gotten plenty of crap throughout my life for being a "girly girl". The female characters I dislike are ones who either have no personality of their own because they only exist to be love interests, or ones who are horrible to other female characters (the first two to come to mind are Bernadette from Big Bang Theory or this character named Maeve from a show called Sirens that nobody watched lol).

My top 5 favorite characters are all women (in no particular order: Margo from The Magicians, Nadja from What We Do in the Shadows, Marjan from 911 Lone Star, Maggie from FBI and Amanda Rollins from L&O SVU) and I wouldn't say any of them are particulary masculine.
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[personal profile] nocowardsoul 2025-08-12 11:58 pm (UTC)(link)
I love the women of Lone Star!
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[personal profile] philstar22 2025-08-13 12:01 am (UTC)(link)
Yes! I also love the 911 women too. But with Lone Star, honestly, I like all the characters except for Owen. He might have been the main character, but he was the most annoying and least interesting. Everyone else outshone him.

(Anonymous) 2025-08-13 12:04 am (UTC)(link)
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Yes! That's one of the things I think Lone Star did much better than the original, writing women characters. Although I mentioned Marjan specifically, I loved all of them, and while I mostly like the women on the original, I don't love them as much as the women from Lone Star.

(Anonymous) 2025-08-13 01:39 am (UTC)(link)
This is it for me. It's not that I hate feminine characters, it's that I hate characters who are feminine and nothing else, who have nothing to their character beyond being the love interest or the ideal wife.

Give me more characters like Makoto from Sailor Moon or Aerith from FFVII, women who are feminine but also have a distinct personality and interests outside of just what's considered to be traditionally feminine pursuits.

(Anonymous) 2025-08-13 02:07 am (UTC)(link)
This is why I like Sansa in ASOIAF. She starts out very focused on romance and the like, but grows beyond that over the course of the books.

(Anonymous) 2025-08-13 05:10 am (UTC)(link)
You know, most of what I watch lately is US and European cop/detective series, and the female characters are not girly. I mean, beyond having a ponytail or something. They're not *stereotypically* feminine.

I'm not an uberfeminine person in terms of demeanor, though I guess I look pretty feminine, so I relate to these kinds of characters best.

(Anonymous) 2025-08-13 05:34 pm (UTC)(link)
As far as I can tell, people still think characters like that are feminine.
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[personal profile] nocowardsoul 2025-08-13 10:51 pm (UTC)(link)
Everyone has their own definition of what the word feminine means, so you can never know what someone means when they mention feminine characters. Archetypes can even be the opposite of each other, like ingenue and seductress.

(Anonymous) 2025-08-14 01:00 am (UTC)(link)
For sure, and that's precisely my issue. Since "feminine" is a moving target, and something that's up to individual interpretation, then can there ever realistically be a female character who isn't feminine?