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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2009-11-01 06:44 pm

[ SECRET POST #1031 ]


⌈ Secret Post #1031 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

101.


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102.
[Friends]


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103.
[NCIS]


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104.
[Legally Blonde/Ace Attorney]


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105.
[De Cape & De Crocs]


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106.
[Monk]


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107.
[Mew]


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108.
[X-Factor]


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109.
[NCIS]


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110.
[Skins]


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111.
[Psychonauts]


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112.
[Better Off Ted]


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113.
[Fist of the North Star]


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114.
[Making Fiends]


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115.
[Death Note]


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116.
[Katekyo Hitman Reborn!]


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117.
[Heroes]


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118.
[House]


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119.
[Monk]


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120.
[craig ferguson ]


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121.
[Shugo Chara]


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122.
[Iron Man Armored Adventures]


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123.
[The Irrefutable Truth About Demons]


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124.
[Megaman X: Command Mission]


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125.
[American Idol]


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126.
[Sean Lennon and Dhani Harrison]


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127.
[James Sutton/Hollyoaks/Emmerdale]


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128.
[team fortress 2]


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129.
[Star Trek, Star Wars: KOTOR]


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130.
[Pushing Daisies]


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131.
[Harry Potter]


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132.
[Tekken, LoZ/SSBB]


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133.
[Fusion Fall]


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134.
[Terry Pratchett]


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135.
[House]


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136.
[Dragonheart]


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137.
[Ghost in the shell 2: Innocence]


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138.
[The Thick of It]


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139.
[Youtube Let's Play]


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140.
[Supernatural]


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141.
[YGO]


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142.
[Bandom]


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143.
[Michael Sheen, A Song of Ice and Fire]


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144.
[White Collar]


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145.
[Brooke Davis/Sam Winchester, Sam McPherson/Brooke McQueen]


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146.
[The Hot Chick]


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147.
[Torchwood, Fourteen]


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148.
[Sengoku Basara]


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149.
[Skins]


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150.
[Nathan Willett, CWK]


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151.
[Strictly Come Dancing]


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152.
[Wes Anderson's Fantastic Mr. Fox]


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153.
[The Office]


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154.
[Sgt. Frog]


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155.
[Buffy the Vampire Slayer, Angel, Harry Potter]


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156.
[Smallville/Legion of Super-Heroes/REBELS/Batman Begins/Scrubs/The Office]


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157.
[Phineas and ferb]


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158.
[Star Trek, Perry Rhodan]


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159.
[Shortpacked]


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160.
[Real Genius]


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161.
[Drake and Josh]


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162.
[Shakespeare in Love]


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163.
[ThatGuyWithTheGlasses.Com]


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164.
[Sesame Street]


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165.
[Phantom of the Opera (Leroux)/Lord of the Rings]


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166.
[Bored to Death]


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167.
[White Collar]


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168.
[Tombstone, Val Kilmer]


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169.
[Karla]


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170.
[Dylan McDermott]


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171.
[Jesus Christ/Lucifer]


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172.
[criminal minds]


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173.
[White Collar]


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174.
[The Sandman]


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175.
[Kate Beaton/Hark! A Vagrant/Mystery Solving Teens]


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176.
[Harry Potter/The Trial of Larry Langford]


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177.
[[Class of the Titans]



Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 20 pages, 485 secrets from Secret Submission Post #148.
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[identity profile] ryttu3k.livejournal.com 2009-11-02 03:01 am (UTC)(link)
And yes, Zelda's MIND was sealed away. Another PERSONA was created. That nixes out the theory that it was a different person (as in, a different physical body). That also says nothing of the anatomy, and in fact leads us to believe that her anatomy stayed the same.

You cannot make that assumption. We know these facts: that Zelda's mind was sealed away, and that Sheik has a mind. Whether that's another persona or another separate mind is never actually stated - it can go either way. Like I said, what evidence we are given is ambiguous. As for the body, I'm going to defer to the game for that - Sheik's body shape =/= Zelda's body shape.

You're also taking what I said and twisting it in order to suit your own purposes, something that I don't like. I never said that Zelda had to pretend to be male in order to be badass, so please don't try to twist me into some sort of female-character-hating-fandom-pariah in order to befit your argument.

Apologies. I HAVE seen people who have argued that and I made a connection. My bad.

We can assume that Zelda -- as Sheik -- was going around to repair the damage. And we also know that -- during the course of the gameplay when Link wakes up -- she was still going around trying to help people -- freeing Ruto from beneath the ice, fighting the shadow in the Kakariko Well, etc. -- along with teaching Link songs in order to help him save Hyrule. Again, I repeat my earlier question: if Zelda wasn't doing that, then what was she doing?

We can't assume any of that. We're not TOLD what happens during those seven years. We DON'T know what Zelda was doing for those seven years, or what Sheik was doing, or what Impa was doing, or what Malon was doing, or what Saria was doing, or what Ruto was doing, or hell, even what Ganondorf was doing. I suppose that is why there's such thing as fanfiction - make it up! We're not told anything, so fill in the blanks. She doesn't have a role in the game? So did a lot of other Zeldas. What was TP!Zelda doing the entire time during the game? Being either locked up in a tower after having previously surrendered or sealed away inside Midna!

1) She wasn't in her Sheik costume at that point, and performing ninja acrobatics in a long gown would be rather difficult, IMO. Not that I've tried, but I can only imagine.

Well, she magically changed out of it in a flash of light, didn't she? Surely she could magically change back into it if their lives were in danger? I mean, seems to me that that would be practical.

2) For the sake of story. Nintendo did not want Zelda helping in the final battle against Ganon (except to hold him in place at the end), and so she didn't do it.

Or, 3) She couldn't do it because she didn't have the same abilities that Sheik had.

As for the body structure . . . just, come on. The actual game was on the Nintendo 64. While I love the N64 and while the graphics were great for its time, it's not the Wii or any of the newer gen games. They didn't even have easily distinguishable fingers in that game.

Which is why I was going off the official art. Sure, the graphics are ambiguous. The official art? Is not. Compare: Zelda (http://zelda.wikia.com/wiki/File:Adult_Princess_Zelda_(Ocarina_of_Time).png), Sheik (http://zelda.wikia.com/wiki/File:Sheik.png).

And she says, "I apologise for meeting you in disguise". Present tense. Yes, she met him in disguise - in that scene. And a magical disguise would still be a disguise. So would a living one (the duality scenarios).

But again, that's only part of the disguise that Princess Zelda used to make herself appear as a boy for seven years.

Okay, explain Sheik's torso and arms. Using the official art, which, in lieu of realistic graphics, is the best possible depiction of those two characters. Yes, magic is an explanation. But if you go as far as to change your entire bone structure, muscle structure, and internal organs - as required by the vastly different body shapes - why would you leave female traits? Why not go the whole way? I don't mind it being Zelda's mind, there's nothing that contradicts that, but seriously, it's a male body.