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⌈ Secret Post #6872 ⌋

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[fscom]

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[fscom]

I thought I was down for pretty much anything when it comes to pronouns – IRL and in fiction. I’m happy to learn to use whatever, including neo-pronouns or something like “it”. But I have found my line in the sand: constantly switching pronouns. I’ll push through a lot for a good story, but if you change pronouns back and forth for a character within the same scene? I just can’t do it.

[(Anonymous)]

It's a complete nightmare for people who are ESL or have learning disabilities too.

Using multiple sets of pronouns? Cool. I'm fine with any pronouns and like to see that normalized. But it completely throws me for a loop to see someone referred to a different pronoun *mid sentence*, or if the paragraph/scene changes pronouns midway, and it muddies which character said pronoun is referring to.

[iff_and_xor]

Oh, that’s awful. The point of pronouns is to be able to identify a person without using their name. Switching without notice mid-flow completely defeats that purpose.

And I think that’s (usually) not the same as people having multiple sets of pronouns that they use in different settings or when their gender(fluid?) identity shifts.

[(Anonymous)]

Oh no, I couldn't stand reading something with that, I would get way too confused.

[(Anonymous)]

I definitely think it needs a skilled writer to pull off switching pronouns in narration without being confusing or awkward. I believe it could be done well but... I am not a fan of the examples I've read. I'm interested in the idea, I've read some experimental fiction that did interesting things with all characters using the same neopronoun or something like that.

[(Anonymous)]

To me it shows they don't know anyone IRL who uses multiple pronouns because I do and nobody switches back and forth that much when we talk about them. I've seen a video or two of young people who say they want you to switch like that, but when they enter the real world they're going to give up when they realize how confusing it is even for themselves.

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah I hate that. Also some of my fandoms have gender fluid creators and some posts are just fucking unreadable.

[(Anonymous)]

I've seen this in journalistic articles (when discussing the subject of an interview, for example) and it comes off as the writer doing it because they think it is ethically required/politically correct or something. Or perhaps it is due to the stated preference of the subject? Either way it reduces clarity

[(Anonymous)]

Same with nonbinary actors who are on record that they're entirely fine with their birth sex pronoun but people go out of their way to use they or neopronouns. Always looks so incredibly performative.

[(Anonymous)]

I was reading a fic comprised of 20ish little snippits and in many of them the main character's pronouns would swap. I kind of get it, there was a lot of gender fuckery going around, but I def had to go back and read the first snippit where (yes) he was him after reading the second where she was her. I'm not sure what the author was going for, if it was just general swapping over time or if each scenario or person the main character interacted with brought out a slightly different presentation. Whatever though, the smut was awesome and pronouns only changed in each snippit.

But also? Some people are just like that. I had a gender fluid acquaintance who would swap his/her/their pronouns whenever. Even minute by minute. This was indicated to the world by either a scarf or necklace's positioning, which was kind of a pain to expect everyone else to know. I would have appreciated a clearer sign like pronoun pins turned upside down when not appropriate, or something! I fell out of contact with this person because (1) she changed pronouns during an argument with someone (while the other person was talking!) and then changed the argument to how their pronouns weren't respected, (2) borrowed money from me and never paid it back, (3) he dropped out of the shared hobby. So some people really are just like that. Most of them probably aren't even jerks even.

[(Anonymous)]

Thanks for sharing this story, I loled.

[(Anonymous)]

Not gonna, "switching pronouns by the minute" sounds like a power trip or control freak behavior. When I say I use any/all pronouns, I just let people know that I'm me regardless of how I'm referred and to just pick a set. Different people can call me whatever. People aren't mind readers and aren't gonna know which you prefer at the moment.

[(Anonymous)]

My personal "whelp..." was indie author Novae Caelum, whose pronouns are "star/stars". I get choosing your own, but that's just silly. Unless Novae is a recently coalesced star (vs the whole "we are all made of star stuff" thing) that's something that annoys my senses.