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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2025-11-21 07:13 pm

[ SECRET POST #6895 ]


⌈ Secret Post #6895 ⌋

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[National Novel Writing Month (NaNoWriMo)]



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[personal profile] fscom 2025-11-22 12:17 am (UTC)(link)
If it didn't amount to social media suicide, I'd like to start a campaign under the title "Tag you Trans". It seriously only has advantages - the people who want to avoid it can avoid it, the people who want to find it will find it, trans people who don't want their dysphoria triggered by surprise genitals won't run that risk and trans people who want to read stories with their own genital configuration can. Only advantages. But the usual suspects would still try to make an imaginary transphobe witch-hunt out of it.

(Anonymous) 2025-11-22 01:42 am (UTC)(link)
I wish this was the case, I am more likely to read a tagged fic bc I want to read that!

(Anonymous) 2025-11-22 02:10 am (UTC)(link)
"Social media suicide" in what world? Do you not see the regular hate trans people get now? Are you stuck in 2015?
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[personal profile] feotakahari 2025-11-22 02:46 am (UTC)(link)
FS suicide, at least.

(Anonymous) 2025-11-22 03:10 am (UTC)(link)
IDK what parts of the internet you hang out in, but the parts I hang out in are left AF. They're not remotely reflective of real-world political demographics, and yeah, OP would probably get dog-piled for proposing something like this, by people swearing it was some kind of dog whistle, or that OP meant something hateful by it.

Just because meatspace is full of conservative bigots doesn't mean plenty of fandom spaces aren't full of progressives feeling helpless, simmering with rage, and lashing out against anything that bears even a vague flicker of resemblance to a microcosm of what's wrong with the world.

(Anonymous) 2025-11-22 04:05 am (UTC)(link)
+1

(Anonymous) 2025-11-22 10:56 am (UTC)(link)
You're on Fandom Secrets. So you hang out in at least one part of the internet that isn't "left AF."

(Anonymous) 2025-11-22 11:17 am (UTC)(link)
Nah. The majority of people here is pretty left as well. Your delusions of F!S being some sort of alt right Maga hub are getting out of hand.

(Anonymous) 2025-11-22 06:09 pm (UTC)(link)
Pretty sure there's like two people here who are centrist or right leaning. That's left AF. If only 100% left is left enough for you to acknowledge that you're in the strong majority, you have a perception problem.

(Anonymous) 2025-11-22 06:10 am (UTC)(link)
Maybe you are in primarily right wing leaning fandoms. I'm not.

(Anonymous) 2025-11-22 12:45 pm (UTC)(link)
On X you can criticise a trans person. On Bluesky it is social suicide to criticise a transwoman in any way. Transwomen are women isn't something everyone agrees with but dare to raise the issue of biology and you're a 'nazi' and getting death threats from the 'inclusive, tolerant, be kind' crowd.
Anyway yes tag so I can avoid it.

(Anonymous) 2025-11-22 03:00 am (UTC)(link)
I guess this really depends on the fandom itself.
A lot of the fandoms I've been apart of have been really good at tagging trans characters/AU in addition to specifics relating to erotica; but also I do remember hearing that the problem were in fandoms like Trigun.

(Anonymous) 2025-11-22 06:12 am (UTC)(link)
Oh yes, it definitely happens in some fandoms more than in others. I've seen it in most fandoms I've been in lately but to varying degrees.

(Anonymous) 2025-11-22 08:39 am (UTC)(link)
It really does sound like you are triggered by trans people existing. IT does sound like you are trying to normalise transphobia, and more importantly, diminish the concept of trans people complaining of transphobia. And that is a very common wedge strategy used by conservative groups, when they want to advance their agenda. Position themselves as a victim, invent an imaginary complaint, advance that complaint, and try to attack people who might defend themselves.

You, madam or sir, whether you think of yourself as one or not, are a transphobe. You keep matching transphobes agendas and spontaneously bring up how you are victimised by people who want to stop transphobia. You are the transphobe in the room.

(Anonymous) 2025-11-22 09:51 am (UTC)(link)
I really hope you're a conservative troll deliberately trying to make trans-activists look unreasonable, when the vast majority are not.

(Anonymous) 2025-11-22 11:19 am (UTC)(link)
Pretty sure that's our resident TERF whiner troll who keeps doing the "everyone who disagrees me is transphobic" dance every time the topic comes up. At least I hope they're a troll because damn they'd be pretty unhinged if not.

(Anonymous) 2025-11-22 11:22 am (UTC)(link)
Lol no.

(Anonymous) 2025-11-22 04:21 pm (UTC)(link)
Aaaaaand you just proved their point. Good job, idiot

(Anonymous) 2025-11-22 03:05 pm (UTC)(link)

do a galaxy-brained 5d chess move and start a "tag your cis" campaign instead

functionally identical end result (you can tell from the tags which characters are being written as trans) but without the implication that you want to avoid reading trans fic

(meanwhile I want people tagging their trans fic so I can find it...)

(Anonymous) 2025-11-22 03:54 pm (UTC)(link)
Not thrilled with the assumption that if a character is trans, we're seeing their pre-transition genitals. Trans fic does not automatically mean porn. Trans fic that's G or T rated exists. Trans porn with post-bottom surgery or magic genitals exists. Trans porn where the trans character's genitals aren't relevant exists.

Less than half of fics on AO3 tagged with 'trans,' a synonym of 'trans,' or under the umbrella of 'trans,' is rated E: https://archiveofourown.org/tags/Trans/works . While E is the most popular rating, it's still less than half.

While I always do tag when a character is trans in smut, I dislike the idea that doing so must be mandatory, because the effect is to make it feel like transness is something that needs to always be warned for, instead of being just how some people are in the world. Please imagine if gay side ships were treated like you are imagining, if any homosexual content was treated as something that *had* to be tagged for, championed mainly by people who want to avoid all homosexual content.

(Anonymous) 2025-11-22 05:00 pm (UTC)(link)
Trans porn with post surgery genitals is just about 1 in 10000. It's basically cuntboys all the way. And 95 % of those is PIV.

And yes, I still think you should tag if you include a character being trans even outside of smut because it's a deviation from canon. Fanfic ist not just YOUR safe space. And a tag is not a warning. It's a tag. And as the secret says, it also HELPS PEOPLE WHO WANT TRANS NON SMUT FIND IT TOO.

Gay side ships are ususally tagged as well. Mainly because people tend to tag most ships that are in a fic. And if you know the characters and see "Gary/John" tagged as a ship, you know there is a gay side pairing. Because it's tagged. And yes, I DO want people to tag their sideships because I hate some popular ships that often appear even as sidecharacter ships in fic not about them and don't want to be slapped in the face with them when reading a fic for something I actually DO like.

(Anonymous) 2025-11-22 06:14 pm (UTC)(link)
+100000 to all of this.

(Anonymous) 2025-11-22 05:18 pm (UTC)(link)
the effect is to make it feel like transness is something that needs to always be warned for

If it isn't canon, then yes, on a certain level it DOES need to be warned for because there are plenty of trans people who aren't always interested in reading trans fic due to their own personal dysphoria or simply a desire to escape having to think about being trans and escape into fiction where they can choose to identify with a character in a cis body if they want.

They know to expect a character being trans if that's the case in canon. They don't know to expect it if it's a trans AU and it isn't tagged.