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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2025-12-29 06:03 pm

[ SECRET POST #6933 ]


⌈ Secret Post #6933 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2025-12-30 04:35 pm (UTC)(link)
tbh I do feel like both of these criticisms have become shorthand for some perfectly legitimate ones

"it's just pocohontas in space" - these movies feel derivative (of pocohontas, but also the wider dances with wolves exotic natives + white savior genre) and anodyne, with a flattened, hollow moral simplicity (like the disney version specifically of pocohontas), and the doesn't meaningfully engage with the science fiction elements of its own setting (the actual avatar bodies especially, how does an interstellar setting change the colonial/indigenous dynamics, the ecology of the planet being ?? psychic?? and the tree an archive of knowledge???), using them purely as set dressing and spectacle that absolves the filmmakers of the need to incorporate or honor any actual indigenous cultures in favor of noble savage one with nature caricature fantasy and crowning the white savior as Approved Chosen One According To The Glow Tree

"it has no cultural impact" - the movies feel tired and like they have nothing to say to our own cultural moment and aren't inspiring any interesting or lasting conversations. while lots of good movies don't get crazy popular, it's weird that a huge established blockbuster director like cameron who HAS made movies with really lasting impact, is spending a truly insane amount of money to construct this CGI world and is going to all this effort to make something vast and intricate and beautiful but fails to use it to tell a story that means anything to just about anybody

thank you all for coming to my hater ted talk, I will proceed to not think about avatar for another 5 years and if they're still making them then, I will emerge from my cave for another one lmao

(Anonymous) 2025-12-30 04:58 pm (UTC)(link)
Valid points.

(Anonymous) 2025-12-30 06:36 pm (UTC)(link)
this
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[personal profile] ariakas 2025-12-30 08:47 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah I can see the sheer repetition of these criticisms annoying those who enjoy the franchise despite them, but unfortunately, it doesn't make them any less accurate.

(Anonymous) 2025-12-30 10:35 pm (UTC)(link)
Honestly agree.