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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2025-12-29 06:03 pm

[ SECRET POST #6933 ]


⌈ Secret Post #6933 ⌋

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Re: Original OP

(Anonymous) 2025-12-30 10:51 pm (UTC)(link)
DA
Yeah, I agree. Watching shows from different countries as a kid was what taught me we aren't that different. Hell, watching kid movies like Turning Red or Encanto in my 30s was relatable even though I'm a different race and culture from the families in it.
Even then, it's weird to have "being able to connect" or relatability be a factor in consuming media. Do you not watch movies or listen to music for entertainment? To have fun? Why does it have to be about how you fit into it?

Re: Original OP

(Anonymous) 2025-12-31 06:16 am (UTC)(link)
Exactly. I'm not Hispanic but there were lots of parts of Encanto that resonated with me on a personal level (Isabela and her Eldest Daughter issues, for one, and Mirabel for being the only child in a family without an obvious talent), and what woman out there couldn't identify with a lot of what Mei went through because they were just basic preteen girl things?

If you aren't able to connect with characters who aren't exactly like you, then why are you even consuming fiction? The entire point of fiction is to be able to experience a story from the point of view of its main character. Like you said, it isn't supposed to be about how YOU fit into it.

Re: Original OP

(Anonymous) 2025-12-31 10:11 am (UTC)(link)
Encanto and Seeing Red are American movies. There is a difference between where (and for whom) stories are written and where they take place. These movies do portray people of other cultures (I think? I did not see Seeing Red tbh, could not tell you if it is a diaspora story or?), but they totally conform to American movie tropes/story telling conventions/etc., bc that is what they are.

Anime is different from Western cartoons, in obvious and in subtle ways. Idk, I think it's not inherently racist to say you don't connect with it, the same way it's not racist to say you don't like Japanese food.

(That said, OPs idea is not reasonably a thing AO3 should or would do, they should look in to extensions that just lets them block fandoms and manually add the biggest fandoms.)

Re: Original OP

(Anonymous) 2025-12-31 04:15 pm (UTC)(link)
Other Anon

Okay. What I said earlier still applies.
"Even then, it's weird to have "being able to connect" or relatability be a factor in consuming media. Do you not watch movies or listen to music for entertainment? To have fun? Why does it have to be about how you fit into it?"

I could give examples of completely foreign movies I related to when watching subtitled, but this is such a childish way to view media outside of America, I have no sympathy for this argument.

Re: Original OP

(Anonymous) 2026-01-01 01:27 am (UTC)(link)
And most of the English language fics the OP is seeing in their search results are written by Americans, or Westerners, and conform to American/Western/wider fandom storytelling tropes and conventions. Furthermore, there's so much bleeding of tropes and storytelling conventions and centuries of cultural exchange across the world, all the way from Disney to the Rashomon Effect, that this feels like a weak and unaware argument.

Re: Original OP

(Anonymous) 2026-01-01 01:29 am (UTC)(link)
+1

Re: Original OP

(Anonymous) 2026-01-01 02:11 am (UTC)(link)
Yes. But they are not familiar with the fandoms, bc they don't care about the source material.

Also no. There is a fucking American hegemony that means every person in the world is familiar with Hollywood... but that is not the same.