[ SECRET POST #6953 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #6953 ⌋

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

So... I'm gonna guess it's not entirely you.

Actors with A-list looks - even if they're gay IRL - tend to be closeted and not go for gay roles for fear of future typecasting. Gay ships being the main feature also tends to not happen in big budget shows or movies so there's even less $$ draw. The pool of talent to pick from is orders of magnitude smaller than even like a C-list Hallmark movie. It's not a big surprise when the people they find often fail to be Hollywood hot and/or are worse at acting compellingly romantic or sexy overall.

I mean think about it, it's not like those A-list actors with A-list looks are incapable of acting out a gay ship. They just don't because the money, opportunity, and audience / career favorability isn't there. Exceptions exist ofc, like Brokeback Mountain being an obvious one starring two guys widely considered conventionally hot - but they stand out as exceptions. Gay stuff is just not mainstream yet, so you're not gonna get the mainstream level hotness.

Besides, I look at het ships in shows with C-tier actors and go 'yeah, nah, these actors aren't that attractive' all the time, and I bet you do too

[(Anonymous)]

The idea that you think gay stuff is not mainstream is wild to me. Some of the biggest shows currently running have gay characters! Hell, you may have noticed that Netflix's flagship, the major water cooler show of the past decade, the one that everyone from my boss to my cousin to my neighbor to my kid's 60-something teacher watched, had two canonically gay main characters. That's about as mainstream as it gets.

[(Anonymous)]

...yeah no, gay stuff isn't mainstream. You'll get a gay character here and there, and some might even be partial mains in an ensemble cast, but that still doesn't make shows focused on gay romance or shows focused on a canon gay ship who are the two main characters a mainstream thing.

That's like saying interracial ships are mainstream because some exist in recent famous media. It's really still not. Unfortunately.

[(Anonymous)]

Most shows aren't focused on straight romance, either; the romance is subplot. Saying that gay romance has to be the primary focus of a show in order for gay stuff to be mainstream is not a realistic bar, especially since audiences are less interested in romance overall than they used to be.

And yes, couples of a certain type appearing in famous media does make them mainstream! Couples and situations that aren't mainstream do not appear in media intended for broad, popular consumption.

[(Anonymous)]

Mmm, that's not what I said, nor is that my bar. There are romance shows where gay ships are a focus, sure. There are shows that have a gay couple as the two main characters, sure. Some shows have gay people appearing as parts of ensemble casts, sure. Does that make gay shows, gay ships, gay romances mainstream? I wouldn't say so. Not until they're accepted as common and normal by society in general and that hasn't happened yet. Anime still isn't mainstream for the same reasons, even though show and movie adaptations happen all the time.

I think we have different definitions of mainstream, and this will end up a debate about that instead of OP's secret, so I'd rather leave it there.