[ SECRET POST #6998 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #6998 ⌋

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[(Anonymous)]

idk, every time i run across a piece of media that celebrates how amazing the power of storytelling is, it always feels self-congratulating and almost masturbatory to me.

examples include The Thousand and One Nights, Neverending Story, The Sandman, Kingkiller Chronicles, etc, etc, etc.

[feotakahari]

Sometimes people who read a lot of fiction say people who don’t read much fiction are lacking some essential element of humanity. To me, that’s almost as offensive as when people say you’re lacking essential humanity if you didn’t take the right college classses.

[(Anonymous)]

A lot of people do lack imagination, but people acting like reading fiction is the only way to show that, or a necessary component of that, are ironically lacking imagination about how else that kind of thing can manifest

[iff_and_xor]

I’ve definitely gotten that feeling from books and movies before, but now I can’t remember many particular examples. I certainly rolled my eyes at some point towards the end of Game of Thrones.

I don’t think I felt it for The Neverending Story or Haroun and the Sea of Stories, but maybe that’s because I read them as a child and still think of them through that nostalgia.

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"WhO hAs A gReAtEr StOrY tHaN bRaN tHe BrOkEn?!?!?!?!?"

[(Anonymous)]

LOL that was my first thought when I saw this secret.

[sabotabby]

Saaaame.

[(Anonymous)]

Wasn't the point of Neverending Story less about 'the power of storytelling' and more about 'MC realizes he has the power to create his own story instead of just passively reading'?

These are different things to me idk

[(Anonymous)]

I remember this from the book too. He found the courage to create instead of just... being along for the ride.

[(Anonymous)]

if you're going all the way back thousands of years to 1001 Nights, the other examples cited are just modern takes on a very old and established trope.

to which I say, yeah, at some point all tropes turn into "omg we get it, stop retreading the same ground again" but idk if this one in particular has been trodden so hard as to be that annoying. you do you, anon, but this trope ain't even on my radar.

[(Anonymous)]

I think the one story of this kind I don't have negative feelings for is I am Frankelda, since it speaks directly to artists and the actual feelings, the challenges, and methods of storytelling, and it's both stop motion animation and a Mexican film.

The others I have seen, indeed, often seem masturbatory. Bran the Broken...

[(Anonymous)]

Thousand and One Nights, in addition to being ancient and potentially one of the originals, is justified IMO because it actually has a real collection of stories to back up its message.

Modern examples I agree with you on mostly. Unless the writer is willing to do the work of writing their own stories within the story, or compiling an original collection of stories others wrote for them.

[sabotabby]

I'm sick of it in modern fiction. But to me the difference between something like 1001 Nights and the ending of GoT is that the former earns it, and the stakes are much smaller for it as well. I can buy story having the power to transform lives, and I can actually buy it having the power to transform cultures if one acknowledges that it has just as much chance of going wrong. But what GoT does feels a lot more self-congratulatory, like any story at all is the only thing that matters to anyone.

[(Anonymous)]

Agree. It seems to be popping up a lot in books recently too. So many books about magical libraries or bookshops that should be interesting but are just about the meta level of how ~important stories are.