[ SECRET POST #7026 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #7026 ⌋

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

OP here.

Thank you for coming back and clarifying! And yeah, I do think you've got the right theory about the reason why this debate is so prominent in fandom. Ironically, I think that tension between wanting to destroy patriarchy and being attracted to men -- and recognizing that being attracted to men does have the effect of lowering women and raising men in people's priorities -- all that has a gender-flipped expression in manosphere/Red Pill parts of the internet too. Obviously a very different form of politics, but Red Pill parts of the internet also crash hard on the rocks of trying to assert male supremacy over women while ALSO being attracted to women and being aware on some level that this gives women a LOT of power over them and their happiness. The political goals are very different in the two camps but I think feminist women too struggle with resolving that contradiction of attraction to men getting in the way of achieving their political program. (Even the MGTOW strain of thought in Red Pill is VERY similar to political lesbianism...)

But yeah, I don't think the solution through that contradiction is to treat it as very very bad and unfeminist to be attracted to men and constantly self-flagellating about it but rather to just acknowledge that most women ARE going to be mainly attracted to men and that will sometimes affect their emotional/motivational state, priorities, attitudes, etc. -- once aware of this, then you can find ways to minimize how much attraction or aesthetic appreciation negatively affect or compromise your political commitments and basically keep the two as separate and independent as possible. And as the person below said, it's also good for fandom to have a bit of a sense of perspective and keep in mind that how people treat fictional female characters matters way less than how they treat real women (which fandom has less access to).