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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2009-12-07 05:10 pm

[ SECRET POST #1067 ]


⌈ Secret Post #1067 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 13 pages, 325 secrets from Secret Submission Post #153.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 1 2 3 - not!secrets ], [ 1 2 - not!fandom ], [ 1 2 3 4 - too big ], [ 1 - repeat ], [ 1 2 3 - ships it ], [ 1 - would hit it ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

(Anonymous) 2009-12-07 11:39 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, in my fandom there's really not that much slash at all, but there's a lot of het shipfic (non-porny, but shippy in addition to plotty) and porn. So, how would the OP feel about that?

Still, though, I have to say as much as authors pretend like they don't care whether or not anyone reads their stuff... there just isn't as much demand for gen as there is for shipfic. I've written a few gen pieces that I sweated blood and tears over, really plotty, non-shippy, non-porny, adventure stories and... crickets in my inbox. No one reads them. No one cares. So, yes, that does somewhat effect my enthusiasm for writing similar in the future. If all these gen fans would actually get out there and *support* the authors writing gen, maybe that would turn the tide. Because the slash fangirls and the smut-readers *do* really support their authors, enthusiastically.

[identity profile] joereaves.livejournal.com 2009-12-08 12:30 am (UTC)(link)
While that probably doesn't help you also have to consider that writers are just 'normal people' so if the majority of readers like ship fic, it's likely that the majority of *writers* like it too, so they're going to write it.

I can write fic of any rating and I prefer long and plotty to just short porny stuff, but because I have a preference for romance in my fic even if it's only in the background, that's what I write. I'd be willing to bet most other authors feel the same way.

[identity profile] poisontea.livejournal.com 2009-12-08 04:33 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, this. To your second paragraph at the very least. I'm usually better at writing some of the male characters from my fandoms, and not the female characters as often, and mostly when I write I like... I cannot write something and make it non-romantic in some way, seriously. I try to write gen and it comes out reading as pretty gay, even if it is in a G-rated way. It makes me :| a little but I'm mostly amused by it; I would love to read genfic between characters I also ship but can't quite write it -- and, to be honest, am happy writing ship fic.

[identity profile] joereaves.livejournal.com 2009-12-08 04:46 am (UTC)(link)
Apparently I put in vibes when i don't even know about it. I wrote for a virtual season and I knew there were some A/B subtext but that's OK it's there in the show and I was no more subtext-y than they are and it was still safely gen IMO. One of the comments mentioned how much they loved the C/D subtext and I was like ... I wrote C/D subtext? Rereading the allegedly gen fic I can certainly see why someone would see that (along with some other potential ships), but I didn't put it there deliberately lol.

I have issues writing female characters too, I've come to the conclusin after some experimentation - it's not me. The *writers* for most of my shows suck at female characters.

[identity profile] poisontea.livejournal.com 2009-12-08 04:59 am (UTC)(link)
Oh, gosh, I usually catch when I'm doing it but now I wonder how much of my stuff has subtext that I didn't even notice. Usually it's just the case of me shipping something and apparently really preferring to write their romantic connections rather than something completely without any sort of subtext between them, and I see the way it's going while I'm writing it and go "LOL OH WELL."

Haha, that may well be the case. |D For myself, it's usually just a numbers thing. A lot of the fandoms I'm in have more male characters than female ones, and I'm not gonna be able to write about 90% of characters in any of my given fandoms, male or female. So usually I write up with mostly male characters I can write and a much smaller handful of females.
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[personal profile] meredith44 2009-12-08 01:28 am (UTC)(link)
Honestly? I would love to read your "really plotty, non-shippy, non-porny, adventure stories" if they were in a fandom I was even tangentially knowledgeable about. (My favorite Supernatural stories are by [livejournal.com profile] big_pink and are exactly the sort of gen plotty stuff I love.) Unfortunately, as someone said above, there may be just as much gen, plotty, etc. fic out there these days, but there is a lot more shippy fic. Thus, it is really, really hard for me to find the gen fic and I consequently don't comment on it to encourage writers to do more.

I know that there are LJ communities for pretty much every pairing in every fandom, but I have rarely (never?) come across a LJ community that is just for gen. The "standard" communities tend to accept everything. Thus I have to wade through a lot of posts to find any gen stories. Most of the time it's just not worth the effort to me and I end up waiting for recs from friends and/or stick to the easier to find fic about pairings that I like.

I wish it were easier to find and enjoy the type of fic you're talking about. I like ship fic, but I also like gen fic, and I miss reading it.
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[identity profile] mythtaken.livejournal.com 2009-12-08 02:33 am (UTC)(link)
[livejournal.com profile] crack_impala has a gen rec post (http://community.livejournal.com/crack_impala/tag/gen) every Monday.
meredith44: Can't talk, I'm reading (SPN DeanGun by half_by_sea)

[personal profile] meredith44 2009-12-08 03:12 am (UTC)(link)
I know. And I already have today's post opened in a tab for reading. Thanks for taking the time to comment, though. I wish there were more resources like that for finding gen (especially good, long, plotty gen) in various fandoms. :)
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[personal profile] amaresu 2009-12-08 05:26 am (UTC)(link)
Have you looked at [livejournal.com profile] spngenlove? I rather love them.