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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2009-12-07 05:10 pm

[ SECRET POST #1067 ]


⌈ Secret Post #1067 ⌋

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Secrets Left to Post: 13 pages, 325 secrets from Secret Submission Post #153.
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[identity profile] zanzou-chan.livejournal.com 2009-12-08 02:30 am (UTC)(link)
Oh, haha, yes. I'm just...rant-ready, on some subjects. *ahem* B| Moving on.

Totally, yeah, trolling behind anon is bad. But weirdly, I find non-anon trolling-- especially when it's obviously trolling-- to be even worse. What does it say about you if you AREN'T a bit ashamed of wanting to make people feel bad? :||| Seriously.

:>>>> Well ty anyway.

[identity profile] affablyevil.livejournal.com 2009-12-08 02:39 am (UTC)(link)
From what I've seen, you've got reason to.

And I see your point about non-anon, but also... well, if you don't know who is so pissed at you or angry at your opinions, then you don't know who to avoid in the future? The possible two-faced aspect of it makes me sad and uncomfortable. If I don't like someone or their ideas, I just avoid them, rather than the passive aggressive trolling stuff.

Then again we all get sarcastic and cranky sometimes so what do I know. And sometimes people's enthusiasm makes them excessively defensive and vocal and then it turns into people ganging up on each other and trying to shut people down and... BLAH. What a mess.

Most of the time I want people to chillax and have some tea. Tea is nice.

[identity profile] zanzou-chan.livejournal.com 2009-12-08 02:43 am (UTC)(link)
Well, that's the thing-- what if you're actually friends with someone. What if that someone KNOWS it's something they can't handle well, that the two of you could really, trully harm your friendship by confronting it, but at the same time, they can't just hold it in any more? Two-faced anon-ranting might seem terrible, but IDK sometimes it seems like the lesser of two evils. As long as it doesn't get into personal attacks, I just... I get it too much. :||

Dude I love tea. I do not get it nearly enough, as I don't want to be addicted to caffeine at all, but I loooove it.

And yeah, it's a mess. But I prefer people thinking it's a mess and only calling anons out for being dicks, rather than just for being anon.

[identity profile] affablyevil.livejournal.com 2009-12-08 02:50 am (UTC)(link)
Then you make a F!S, naturally. ;D But yeah, people deal with their rage in their own ways. Personally, I tend to just hop on AIM or whatever and CAPSLOCKRAGE at someone who has nothing to do with fandom. Their bemusement usually calms me down.

Re: caffeine, wow I'm very impressed! Over here I'm addicted to milk tea and if I don't have it for a few days I start getting the Crazy Eyes. And running for the nearest vending machine.

But word, I totally see your point. I'm very "live and let live" with anons, but dickery (anon or not) isn't why I want to be in fandom.

[identity profile] zanzou-chan.livejournal.com 2009-12-08 02:53 am (UTC)(link)
OH TRUE STORY. XD Hahah, different strokes, etc.

I used to be really addicted, via pop, but I cut myself off and have worked hard not to go back. D:;

Totally. And I feel like as long as you treat anons like they're any other person-- civilly until they're a dick-- then you'll probably end up being in a pretty good boat. :D

[identity profile] affablyevil.livejournal.com 2009-12-08 03:31 am (UTC)(link)
I solemnly swear that I have never vented my frustration by writing a F!S. Really. >.>

I totally hear you — back when I was in school I survived the more brutal period by being really addicted to Dr. Pepper. But at least back then I couldn't drink coffee black...

Yes, I agree — though sometimes it's hard to tell what anon is volleying what, especially in the anon comment wars. It does kind of amuse me to see them be all grouchy at each other. XD

I myself do try to not be overly dicky via sarcasm but yeah sometimes it's just keyboard smash of D: "nuu guyz stop itt" or "haters to the left"ness. But then again I'm usually a skip-through-the-flowers fan that shrugs off the stuff I find annoying. But it's easy for me to say "Let's all braid each other's hair," when people have legitimate frustrations and disappointments and feel like their opinions are being brushed aside.

Anyway, please call me out if my own sarcasm slides into dickery, and know that people are backing you up on your civil disagreementing. :)

[identity profile] zanzou-chan.livejournal.com 2009-12-08 03:34 am (UTC)(link)
Totally. And will do, haha. Me as well? 8D;

Seriously though, I always turn the dick on when I get straw-manned. It makes me raaaaaaaaaaaage.