[ SECRET POST #1067 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #1067 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 13 pages, 325 secrets from Secret Submission Post #153.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 1 2 3 - not!secrets ], [ 1 2 - not!fandom ], [ 1 2 3 4 - too big ], [ 1 - repeat ], [ 1 2 3 - ships it ], [ 1 - would hit it ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Comments

[lyssie.livejournal.com]

but I take a high objection to your "I miss the time when things were gentastic!" somehow equating "I miss the time when there was no slash!" No slash =/= gen.

THAT. I'm puzzled as to how everyone has been conflating that, since the original secret doesn't say so AT ALL.

As for your last paragraph, YES. For example, BSG had massive amounts of women and loads of femslash back during the first two seasons. It's only more recently that the boyslash has started to get more production (while the quality of the series' treatment of the female characters has gone downhill like whoa). The het was always swallowing everything else.

[ginzai.livejournal.com]

I think the conflation came due to responses to the comments, for the most part. And there is a school of thought that considers gen to include the exploration of any canon or almost canon pairing, with the impression I got being that such exploration was fine provided that the pairing in question was het. Dean/Anna from Supernatural would therefore be fine, since it's a het pairing and they slept together. Dean/Castiel, a slash pairing, would not be, not even if they were playing on the subtext of the long, lingering stares, complaints about violation of personal space, BFF status, and jealousy/curiosity from Castiel regarding Dean/Anna.

Which as an explanation makes no sense to me. Gen to my mind is without ANY explicit exploration of pairings. At most a background mention where it's not a main focal point of the POV character.

And yeah, I really think that slash tends to come in most when there aren't well developed women on the show. I watched BSSM for years and slash there was highly marginalized but you had plenty of het and femslash. Same thing for Buffy - F/F and F/M were both pretty popular, but it wasn't really until Spike crossed series and landed on Angel that I saw an explosion in the slashdom. Go figure - Angel season five had few well developed female characters. Just Fred and Harmony, really, if I'm remembering right. And even TPTB were calling Angel/Spike the season's true love story.