[ SECRET POST #7035 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #7035 ⌋

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[fscom]

02. https://i.postimg.cc/L8tzGjMM/QPwn0q-M.png

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[(Anonymous)]

[image of a mug reading “Everyone watches women’s sports”]

This is a nice sentiment, but it's kind of delusional. Get real. No, not everybody watches women's sports. I personally don't watch any sports at all and I only know one or two people who watch sports. The reality is that men's sports have dramatically higher viewership and support. It doesn't help that the woman looks like one of the bad guys from Space Jam.

[iff_and_xor]

I can’t imagine anyone seriously considers that to be a statement of fact.

More of an aspiration, maybe?

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah, definitely. This isn't intended to be a 100% statement of truth...OP reminds me of the pedants on Reddit. Sometimes, statements are not intended to be interpreted as objective fact. This is very obviously one of those cases. So many people want to argue with stuff that is clearly not meant to be taken literally, and I don't get why.

Let me tell you about a situation I saw play out once:

Someone on Reddit writes a comment in a post about relationships, and they made the mistake of ending their comment with, "But who hasn't had a shitty relationship or two"

In come the replies:

"Me! I'm a 30-year-old forever alone virgin, I've never even held hands with another person! Nobody loves me, nobody has ever wanted me!"

"Me! I met my SOULMATE at AGE TWELVE and neither of us ever even LOOKED at another person and we got married THE DAY WE WERE BOTH 18 and have lived in ETERNAL PARADISE for the last FIFTY YEARS"

"Me! I'm aro ace and I don't want anything to do with any of that shit!"

"Me! I'm 13 years old and I think girls have cooties!"

You, and I, and everyone else knows that the person who wrote that comment did not mean that literally every single other person on earth has had a shitty relationship or two. It very obviously wasn't meant to be a literal statement of absolute fact. But people online have this tendency to nitpick and disagree with everything. And that honestly wears you down after awhile.

[(Anonymous)]

+1

come on, op. you can't sit here and seriously say you think that mug is meant to literally mean that every single person watches women's sports? it's not hard to figure out that it's meant as a supportive message/statement.

[(Anonymous)]

But if they don't push their glasses up their nose whilst saying "Um, ACTUALLY", how else can they show people that they are the cleverest one in the room?!

[(Anonymous)]

I assume it's a reactive statement to the idea that nobody watches women's sports or cares about it, but... yeah, I can see your point. I also don't watch sports of any kind, no matter who's playing.

[tabaqui]

I think the art is neat. Reminds me a bit of cold-war art or something, I dunno.
(I wish I could bring to mind types and periods of art more readily, but I just cannot.)

Men's sports 'dominate' in my opinion because of lashings of misogyny that never goes away and millions more in advertising and merch.

[(Anonymous)]

+100

[iff_and_xor]

Oh, I know what you mean about the art style and I can’t quite put my finger on it either. I wanted to say it’s like late Soviet murals of muscular women, but a quick search isn’t pulling up what I was imagining. Maybe I’ll ask my more art-educated friends tomorrow.

[tabaqui]

Yes exactly!
The artist is Kelly Anna, and this seems to be her overall style. I like it!

[(Anonymous)]

Is this some sort of movement that it has you so annoyed, OP? I've neither seen the mug and logo nor heard that slogan anywhere - and I do, in fact, watch women's sports. Is this some sort of thing?

[(Anonymous)]

I've never seen that anywhere? I think more people would watch women's sports if parents took their little kids to see them as much as they took their little kids to see men's sports. The puck control/stick work in women's hockey is absolutely amazing. This popped up from a google:

https://www.reddit.com/r/justgalsbeingchicks/comments/1qbfy3v/insane_stick_work_and_puck_control/

[(Anonymous)]

I think it's more about the lack of support because the people with the money and power don't want to invest in women and their interests. One of the biggest reasons why women aren't as skilled as men in many sports is because women haven't been allowed to participate for as long.

Early 20th century women's baseball was just as popular as men's in the US...but when television became a big thing, guess where the television producers put their money? It wasn't that the public wasn't interested or that there was no money there. It was that men saw no reason to include women. As advertising money went to TV, monetary support for women's sports waned and died.

If you want to call out women's ambitions to have everyone watch women's sports, let's discuss why women have to fight so damn hard to begin with.

*screams "It's the patriarchy!!!!" into the void*

[tabaqui]

+ 1 billion.

[(Anonymous)]

SA
Clarification/correction: I meant to specify monetary support for women's sports was meant to be women's baseball only. I don't know what other sports were like in terms of even having a women's league and their popularity (of they even existed).

[(Anonymous)]

+1000

[(Anonymous)]

It was never meant to be a fact, but the words no one watches women's sports were said and written so many times, this was a counter from Togethxr as just white letters on a black T. Simple.

No idea where the version from this pic came from, I've never seen it as anything other than plain text so it's not like that's the official campaign or anything. It's probably etsy or redbubble or something.

[tabaqui]

This was also from Togethxer, artist Kelly Anna.
https://www.togethxr.com/collections/everyone-watches-womens-sports/products/stanley-quencher-40oz-black

[(Anonymous)]

For me it's so bizarre that this is a drama. My whole life everyone around watched women's sport one or another. But I am not American and no one watches baseball for example. But people are heavy into tennis or figure skating.

But tbf football/soccer IS male-dominated sport both in teams and fans.

[(Anonymous)]

I thought of it like 'anyone can cook' in Ratatouille-- not everyone watches women's sports, but there's no demographic that *can't* enjoy women's sports.