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[fscom]

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Transcript by OP

[fscom]

I understand not enjoying really badly done CGI, especially from studios that we all know can afford good artists and give them the time to complete their work.

But the general animosity towards any use of CGI at all is annoying as hell at this point. Every single movie/show uses CGI in come capacity, even if it's just VFX colour grading, and frankly most people complaining about it don't even seem to know what is and isn't CGI half the time.

CGI creature that doesn't exist is 'CGI slop' but the comped in background doesn't get a single peep of crit because the whiners can't tell it's CGI.

(VFX studios are some of the worst treated in the industry as well, so the complaints about people's hard work that's already being undervalued just rubs me wrong).

[(Anonymous)]

Agreed.

My fave is a blend of the two, so as much of the foreground as is possible to be real and then use CG to enhance it or add in things that really can’t be made practically. And it tends to age well and look good.

[(Anonymous)]

I think my biggest grievance with this is people who complain about CGI animals and refusing to understand that the reason real animals are largely not used anymore is all of the abuse and torture to outright deaths that happened.

Yeah I’ll take the slightly off tiger thanks so that a real one isn’t killed for the sake of a movie.

[(Anonymous)]

Most people in my circles that are complaining about cgi animals are not wanting real animals but more animatronics or puppets. Done right they look 100x better than most cgi you see these days. The dinos in the original Jurassic Park are a good example.

[(Anonymous)]

+1
Either spend the money to make it look real or bring in practical effects. I don’t think most people want to see real animals, we just want them to look like real animals. Or monsters or aliens or superheroes or whatever.

[(Anonymous)]

NAYRT. This is my preference tbh. I want them to bring back animatronics and puppets. I just think they're so much better at that sense of 'reality', because they ARE real, than CGI. CGI, even good CGI, always looks slightly... wrong.

[(Anonymous)]

Yes!
I don't mind some CGI on them, but you need some physical objects not to hit this uncanny valley effect pure CGI animals get

[(Anonymous)]

Rocky in Project Hail Mary!

[(Anonymous)]

+1

[(Anonymous)]

As someone who's worked in the industry, people who shit on Avatar movies because it's all "fake cgi" baffle me so much. First of all, all movies are fake! The stuff that's made on a computer still represents years of hard work by talented professionals. Say what you will about the story but those visuals are still absolutely jawdropping.

[(Anonymous)]

I have never watched the movies because I can’t get past the uncanny valley. I’m frankly shocked even to this day how popular the first one was. It looks like absolute shit. A low light picture using my phone without clearing the lens of the inevitable fingerprints it gets from taking it out of my pocket will produce a better and more realistic look than CGI. Because CGI hasn’t reached the point where things look real even if someone spent years working on it.

[(Anonymous)]

I’m honestly glad I haven’t seen this. My circles still complain about low quality CGI and wish the studios would pay for better quality, but my circles tend to overlap digital arts circles. I actually find the whole thing interesting because the animators are getting royally screwed (nothing new tbh) and weirdly it seems like the audience is aware it’s the studio’s fault.

Oh the irony!

[(Anonymous)]

Apparently you’re the one who doesn’t know what CGI is. VFX color grading and background comps aren’t computer generated imagery, they’re digital processes.

[(Anonymous)]

Don't worry, I hate modern VFX color grading most of all! Please give me actual good lighting. Please.

[(Anonymous)]

Hahaha right?! Apparently OP was in isolation for months when the last season of Game of Thrones aired.

[philstar22]

I 100% agree with this too. And I would also add that there are plenty of bad practical effects out there. Neither is inherently better than the other, a combination is best, there are both good and bad of both.

[(Anonymous)]

People like to ignore the utterly shit practical effects and ignore the good CGI because they’re set in a bias they refuse to an acknowledge. There’s good and bad of both kinds of effects and to point at one being always worse is completely dishonest.

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Time to post this vid about David Fincher movies!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QChWIFi8fOY

[(Anonymous)]

I completely disagree, also I think you tried too hard to 1up because in my experience, it isn't the surrounding/lighting that bother me. Even though, much like physical painted backgrounds, and screen/light filters, all the way back to silent era - those are meant to invoke area and tone. It's fully impractical to wait for weather and season and setting, even when dealing with settings in your own backyard. It's the reason why hollywood is located where it is, because of the temperatures and microclimates that allow filming all year round. Those things have been around since forever.
It's not that horrible CGI used in these areas are any less noticeable, but in the same way studio footage is accepted and passed off, the fact these things are meant to invoke rather than fixate they are often given a pass. (also it takes a fuckton more work to physically build and/or paint a backdrop/set than it does when using CGI, even at it's oldest, it's used because it's both cheaper and easier, and don't even get me into AI, so you're just plain wrong when claiming it insults the work they do)

Personally, I've never forgotten Ian McKellen's admission of breaking down in tears while filming the Hobbit movie because he was completely isolated from the rest of the cast, because his character needed to be separately CGI'd to be bigger, and was distraught about it, lamented that 'this is not what acting is'.
It's that which is most obvious to me as well. That actors can't adlib or form a rapport with literally nothing, and very few can actually make it believable they're interacting with something that isn't actually there.
The absence is the biggest reason I wasn't the biggest fan of CGI, really.

[(Anonymous)]

That is an example of bad CGI, though. There are plenty of examples of good CGI. And plenty of examples of bad practical effects. Isolating particularly bad examples to claim that all CGI is like that is disingenous.

[(Anonymous)]

Bad CG is very noticeable, but the good stuff gets passed over because it works, so yeah I get you OP. It doesn’t help that the staunchly anti CG are insufferable about it while displaying that they don’t know what the fuck they’re talking about.

[(Anonymous)]

Years of underpaid and overworked Marvel CGI slop has made people think it’s all like that.

[(Anonymous)]

Tbf the majority of movies that actually make it to theaters use terrible CGI. Good CGI is rare and almost never makes it to theaters.

[(Anonymous)]

I hate when productions will wait to make a decision about an element (costume, prop, character, background) and CGI it in later. (Looking at you MCU) Partly because it *sucks* but also because having dudes run around in green suits covered with golf balls on green screen sound stages rarely supports good acting. It's much more than the image itself, it's the intention and reality around it.

I respect CGI artists. Hope they unionize so studios couldn't abuse them so badly and turn out slop in the process.