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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2010-01-16 04:37 pm

[ SECRET POST #1107 ]


⌈ Secret Post #1107 ⌋

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[identity profile] xanykaos.livejournal.com 2010-01-17 12:17 am (UTC)(link)
Yes, yes, yes, yes.

I don't know, but the honest truth is, I am freaking SICK of the term fridging, because it gets pulled out every time a bad guy makes someone other than the hero suffer.

...

That's called conflict people.

It's like it's this automatic stamp of something that's being poorly written. Look, the plain honest truth is, if you're a terrible evil bad guy and you want your nemisis to suffer, you are probably going to try and attack people they're close to. It's not a case of sexism, it's just...it's just another path the story can take, and the reason it's so freaking prevelant is that a good portion of the time, it works.

Drama sells comics. Characters need to be motivated. And let's face it, revenge is one of the most classic, if not noble, motivations there is. It's not always a bad thing in a story.

Bruce Wayne's parents got "fridged" apparently. How insensitive! They exist only to move his story forward! Terrible writing, that! Why don't we go and give them equal development and storytime and all...

Look, I'm not saying it's not a problem. Kyle Rayner's girlfriend, the trope-namer for fridging, got a raw deal. Sue Dibny got a raw deal. There are plenty of times when it's handled in a very bad way. But every time someone other than the hero is targeted, we've gotta cry "FRIDGE" and look angry.

...it's tiresome.

I mean, why not just say all of the Jokers victims are stuffed in the fridge; the only reason he kills 'em is to get to Batman most of the time.

I don't know, but I get skeptical of fridging that doesn't actually take someone out of the game. The heroes lead a life that's dangerous for them and for the people around them. In real life, cops do have their families threatened. In a story that was not focused on her, something bad happened to Babs, which she then overcame (and became fifty times more hardcore in the process). And it became a part of her story and moved her story forward in time, when she was in a story that focused on her.


Also going to add that while I roll my eyes at the over-cry of "FRIDGE" I see a little red at the logic that fridging can only happen to women. Yes, we know that the comic industry is more than a wee-bit male-oriented and sometimes it can get uncomfortable if not down-right insulting. But it just seems silly to say that Martha Wayne was fridged, but Thomas Wayne was...um...just killed.

(And referring to rape as fridging has got to stop. It's rape: we don't need a new word to convey how incredibly creepy and wrong it is when writers slide it into the backstory or use is to create teh dramas in really weird spots. And don't get me started on how Batman's rape was just treated as a night of boozed-up sex. Ugh.)

...
time for the fireworks.