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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2010-01-16 04:37 pm

[ SECRET POST #1107 ]


⌈ Secret Post #1107 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[identity profile] vieillerie.livejournal.com 2010-01-17 12:22 am (UTC)(link)
But when Bruce got his back fucked up, everybody just knew he was going to recover. Because he's a guy, he's the main character, and he's the goddamn Batman.
Don't get me wrong, I also like Barbara way more as Oracle. Every cloud has a silver lining, they frigded her and someone managed to turn that into something awesome, but that doesn't change the fact. Honestly, this biased sexist criteria that allows a reader to know from the get-go if a character is going to survive/recover from a given situation just based on his popularity and his status is one of the genre's worse flaws. Heroes rarely appear vulnerable and sometimes it's hard to relate to their struggles or be truly thrilled about wether or not they're going to win in any given situation because of it.

And I don't think Jason is a good example. They killed him because they hated his guts. Most people still hate him still, Red Hood or no Red Hood.

[identity profile] xanykaos.livejournal.com 2010-01-17 02:39 am (UTC)(link)
Honestly, this biased sexist criteria that allows a reader to know from the get-go if a character is going to survive/recover from a given situation just based on his popularity and his status is one of the genre's worse flaws.

While you make valid points, I think it holds true for female heroes as well, if not as often. Black Canary lost her powers, but she got them back again. And if a character's in a book bearing their name (like Batman), we usually can take it for granted that they'll survive. And male characters can and do die off or lose their powers in stupid ways without coming back (Skin and Synch from New Mutants come to mind). If Babs had been shot in a Batgirl book, we would've known she was coming back.
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I dunno, maybe those are all exceptions rather than rules, but the sexist thing to me is less that female characters suffer to get back at a male hero, and more that there aren't enough female characters carrying a title.