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⌈ Secret Post #1107 ⌋

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I completely agree. I actually ended up writing a paper on this in my first semester in college. As a disabled woman, it made me really, really angry to see feminists speaking like she was 'ruined'. When my genetic disability kicked in, was I ruined? Why are mental capabilities considered to be lesser? (Good to know that even though I achieved my life's dream of getting into an amazing college due to my mental prowess...it's not worth anything as long as I can't walk!) Oracle is my inspiration to be fucking awesome even when I can't move around as awesomely as Batman. :| So suck on that, people who believe she was fridged.

She wasn't fridged. Her character was thrown a challenge and she overcame that shit. You never got to see just how incredibly strong she was until she became Oracle.

Look at the rest of the comments--feminists aren't pissed off because she was made disabled, they're pissed off because a writer crippled her with no intention of showing her adjust and work with her disability, only using her as a plot device to make the men suffer. I have never seen anyone who doesn't think Barbara is an amazing disabled character (and amazing character, period), and I'm under the impression that most readers prefer her as Oracle. If Moore's intention was to look at Bab's attack and disability from her point of view, like later writers did, that wouldn't be fridging. What he did to her--shoot her and write her career off for pathos--is. It's him you should be mad at, not the feminists calling him out for how he wrote about JimGordon'sdaughter/Batman'sprotege instead of Babs Gordon.

Feminists in this thread, perhaps not. But most fans of the comic I've met consider her to be 'ruined' the way she is. While doing research, I had to drudge my way through article after article berating the male authors for daring to handicap a female character. Do I think it's right that she was once used for a plot device? Of course not. But the simple fact of the matter is that there are many, many fans who still consider her to be damaged goods.

Just because you don't doesn't mean I haven't met many other people (who didn't know the person on the other side of the computer can barely get up to take a piss sometimes) who act like that one simple act is so much more important than the character she's become.

Those are the people I am angry with. The people who would rather make a point about what was done to that 'strong' woman, who had her feet knocked out from under her just for a plot point, how she's not strong anymore, than explore the text from a disabled perspective.

I can find lots of feminist texts on Oracle. Not so many from a disabled point of view. Whatever got her there, I finally have a character I can look up to--who's like me. People talking about what a shame it is that she is where she is now? Piss me off.

(BTW, I can be mad at both.)

To put it much more succinctly, Alan Moore used a beloved female character as a plot point and ignored her character and potential. Now, many activists are using her as a ragey rallying point--and are still ignoring her character and potential. :/

Yes, exactly! It's like they only see the wheelchair and not the person in it. Heck, the only other comic book character I can think of in a wheelchair is Xavier and he has Awesome Psychic Powers, while Babs's kickassitude is still in mortal human scope.

But in a way doesn't that make her MORE awesome? Like how Batman is more awesome than Superman because anyone can fight crime if they know they're (almost) invincible.

Yes! To be entirely honest, when I first moved out, I felt completely overwhelmed. I was sick, I was hurting, and I was just about ready to sit down and give up on my dreams, because it was just too hard to do while disabled. But you know, if she can still be a kickass superheroine after an injury like that, I can be a fully functioning member of society and more no matter how much I'm hurting. We're both just human, right? (Well, obviously she might have a one up on me, what with all those writers...but!) Watching her go through her physical therapy helped me get through mine.

Thanks, Babs!

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