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⌈ Secret Post #1125 ⌋

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102.

[The Office]

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[White Collar]

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[Star Trek Online]

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105. [repeat]

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[Code Geass]

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[Ke$ha]

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[Dexter]

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[Code Geass]

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[Joyeux Noël]

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[Alan Cumming]

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[Yu-Gi-Oh]

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[Gareth Malone]

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[Good Omens/Demian/Legend Of The Galactic Heroes]

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[Arctic Monkeys]

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[How I Met Your Mother]

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[LOST]

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[Ben 10: Alien Force]

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[Puppet Master movies]

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[Community]

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[Questionable Content]

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[KHR]

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[Kim Manners]

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[BtVS]

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[Top Gear]

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[Wonderfalls]

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[Paradise Kiss]

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[Arashi/JE]

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129.

[Robert & Susan Downey]

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[Merlin]

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[A Song of Ice and Fire]

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[Saiyuki]

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[FFVII]

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[Animorphs]

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[Eternal Champions]

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[KHR]

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[FF13]

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[Baka to Test]

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[Criminal Minds]

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[Hetalia]

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[Psych/Supernatural]

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[Naruto]

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[How I Met Your Mother]

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[Wristcutters: A Love Story]

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[Valkyrie Profile]

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[Anastasia]

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[Scrubs and Burn Notice]

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[Fallout 3/Doctor Who]

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[I Love You, Man]

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[KHR]

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[Fringe: "August"]

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[Transformers]

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[The Big Bang Theory]

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[Hollyoaks]

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[White Collar]

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[Fire Emblem]

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[D. Gray Man]

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[Superior/Superior Cross]

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[Coldplay and Moxy Fruvous]

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[The IT Crowd]

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[psyclon nine]

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162. [repeat]

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[Liar Game & RuPaul's Drag Race]

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[Van Helsing]

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[McLeod's Daughters]

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[Greg Proops, Tony Slattery, & Jon Stewart]

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[Inglourius Basterds]

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[Ronja Robbersdaughter]

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[Good Omens]

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[The Silmarillion]

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[Supernatural]

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[30 Rock/The Nanny]

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Crossover and intermingling of words/constructions in language is essential (no tongue would exist as we know it today without it) and natural, I've zero argument there, and I'm sorry I even implied such. What's annoying---in this secret---is OP's use of this Britishism in order to affect "superiority" (their rightful position as poised floodgatestress of "trolls"). If phrases are to bleed in, they should not be put to uses as sniping and petty as this.

Or, they could be British.

I'm pretty sure they're not, but they could've been.

I tend to use British terms because I'm used to hearing them, and because in an argument, they make me sound like I know what I'm talking about. I've noticed that if you speak calmly and rationally and sound remotely smart, people are more likely to listen to you.

That, and sometimes I don't even realize they are British terms.

Regardless of whether or not we agree about this secret's example, you bring up an interesting dynamic: that sometimes often a speaker isn't even aware that the phrases they're using are borrowed. And, I realize this is how language works, yeah, but I do dream of people always seeking to have some concept of their lingual contributors, if only because, in this way, they develop a better picture of the interconnectivity of language, the porousness of its boundaries.

But, to restate: it's not the borrowing that irked me (in this secret and elsewhere). It's the vain and silly purpose these---perhaps subconscious---imports were applied to.

I can respect that.

Would you be as annoyed by vanity and silliness conveyed by "unborrowed" language?

I mean... well, yeah.

*amused*

*Is* "your lot" (as opposed to your cited "you lot") a Britishism? They could just as easily have said "your kind," "your group," or "your ilk" and still have sounded derogatorily snobby. I'm really not seeing a deliberate affectation of British turn-of-phrase to sound superior. Really, "your lot" is closer to neutral than "your ilk" would be.

I hadn't realized I'd misquoted it from the OP (fuck). And: you're right, that's just the vibe I picked up on. But the biggest reason I made that comment is---whether or not this secret is a genuine example---that I wish this trend would stop everywhere.

The assumption of vaguely British sentence structure and some colloquialisms doesn't really bother me because I see it more as "I will show my intelligence by using the most proper English possible, and what is more proper than British English?" Which can be amusing (or annoying, I guess), when people take it too far, but it always seems like flattery to me. Then again, I'm not British. Really, it reminds me of some people I know (in Southern California) trying to not slip into Southern slang and/or accents when angry or passionate-- some ways of speaking get taken more seriously than others. It's unfortunate, but true. So people adjust their speech/writing to cater to the interpretation they desire. It's like how when I get very serious about academically communicating a point, I consciously alter my speech/writing patterns to not include contractions. It's what I perceive as "serious language." It's rather subjective, though.

In some countries (especially where there has been a colonial presence)* speakers will switch to a whole different language depending on the situation/the seriousness or closeness they mean to display. Like, using one language for business and another for courtship, even though both are complete tongues with all the words and phrases you'd need for either.

But no, OP's behavior certainly isn't novel. What (as you grasped) is annoying is their putting on this most "proper" form for... well, I've said this already.

*I wanna say this happens in the Philippines? With Spanish? But I can't find anything to cite.

Fascinating. Now I want to read about that. Possibly in a book on post-colonialism? (Or is that post-imperialism?) Hmm.

I guess it's the subjective reactions at work: I find it amusing, you find it annoying. To each his own. I just find it funny because it's almost like mild sesquipedalian loquaciousness (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/SesquipedalianLoquaciousness) (TVTropes link, beware). I admit a tendency toward such, myself, even if I tend to find posturing ridiculous.

Regardless, I think that its linguistic purpose was served if it managed to convey the mood that the OP felt themselves to be superior/have cooler logic. Whether that attitude is annoying is subjective.

I'm just babbling/thinking aloud here. xD

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