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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2010-02-18 07:40 pm

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⌈ Secret Post #1140 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Notes:

Some out of order because LJ's being REALLY slow.

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[identity profile] bleed-peroxide.livejournal.com 2010-02-20 06:44 am (UTC)(link)
I... I dunno. I don't hate Arakawa's artwork, but it's definitely not the best. Roy looks really off in a lot of it, which confuses the shit out of me. He looks attractive in Brotherhood and even better in the first anime, but he looks a gene short of caveman in what I've seen in the manga. D:

LOL I get what you're talkin' about. I'm so used to someone jumping down my throat if we *gasp* disagree or something.

CHRIST ON A CRACKER. That part pissed me off in Brotherhood. I mean, I have nothing against religion, so long as you don't shove it down my throat. Whatever makes you happy, y'know? But the key thing in the series is that Edward is a firm atheist - he never once shows any belief in God and even jokes that even if God did exist, he probably hates Edward anyway. Him praying to God when Gracia was giving birth just... I dunno, it felt really out of character. I could understand if it was Alphonse, since he's not really as firm in his beliefs and even suggests to Edward that there could be something out there that neither of them can explain away with science. BUT IT'S EDWARD. He doesn't want anyone to help him, let alone a god. I consider him atheist - I think he outright says it in the manga (I read that far at least, lol).

[identity profile] adraekh.livejournal.com 2010-02-20 06:59 am (UTC)(link)
I think Roy's face is difficult to get right. In all of the mediums (first anime, second anime, and manga), you often have some really awkward shots. Arakawa has the tendency to make him a little moon-faced, for instance, and the same goes for Brotherhood. (Also, Arakawa's art has gotten sloppier in the later chapters of the manga.) In the first anime, there were some scenes in which his nose is too long or some parts of his features aren't actually centered very well. Granted, it's been some time since I watched the first anime, so my memory may be going bad.

This fandom has a lot of potential wank just stewing beneath the surface. Mostly I just lurk to avoid all the confrontation.

I think it's quite possible to argue that Ed's an agnostic, actually, so much so that I generally let comments regarding him being agnostic slide by without thinking about it too much. But we won't get into that, because that would take way too long to explain. (And Arakawa clearly wants us to see him as an atheist, in any case, if only to set up a science-religion dichotomy - or as foreshadowing for some later event. There's a shot in the manga in which Ed claps his hands together, and you have Arakawa noting that the hand-clapping is oddly similar to praying.)

In any case, the entire issue with that scene is that it goes deeper than just "Ed is an atheist, he would never pray," in my opinion. It's that Ed is fundamentally opposed to the idea of religion, because it contradicts his most basic belief regarding how people should not give up, how they should always strive to help themselves regardless of the situation. And I feel that Ed finds religion to be a little too much like throwing in the towel, saying, "All right, there's nothing more I can do, let me pray to some immaterial being in the sky that may or may not exist for help" - basically giving up and shoving your responsibilities onto someone else. The complete opposite of what Ed believes to be the "correct" conduct, essentially.