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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2010-03-23 04:32 pm

[ SECRET POST #1174 ]


⌈ Secret Post #1174 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Re: 135

[identity profile] immortal-jedi.livejournal.com 2010-03-24 12:25 am (UTC)(link)
I always read that line, along with all the other times Sam mentioned the fight in S1 as Sam thinking he couldn't.

Well, Dean had said that he hadn't contacted Sam in two years (and I hate that little plot problem there, btw). Would you want to see your estranged brother if he broke into your house after two years of no contact, asking you to help find your missing father, who you thought hated you?

I think that Sam thought his family had given up on him, why should he try to find out about them?

Now, I think we're just arguing in circles here. Clearly, I feel one way about the text, you feel another way. And, really, I'm enjoying the argument, but we're not going to resolve anything. And that's fine. It's fun, though.

Re: 135

[identity profile] ginzai.livejournal.com 2010-03-24 12:04 pm (UTC)(link)
It looks like we're interpreting the text differently, that's for sure. But you're right; it's a fun conversation, even if we won't convince each other of our respective POVs! :)

In Dean's case, it depends. I never got the impression that Sam blamed Dean for the fight or that Dean had been much more than a bystander during it. I'm guessing there were several incidents like in Dead Man's Blood where Sam and John were at each other's throats and Dean did what he could to keep the peace, at least until that final argument where Sam finally left. So if my interpretation is correct, then I would want to see my estranged brother because I wouldn't associate him with the negativity that happened with my dad, especially because this is almost years after the fact and the wounds have had a chance to heal.

The two/four year thing drives me batty too! The best way I can explain it is that the writers screwed the pooch Sam was gone for almost four years (he hadn't graduated yet but seemed to be in his senior year, so more than three years) and that he and Dean had last had contact two years prior to the pilot. I'm guessing something happened then that turned the feud somewhat more personal between them, but of course, there's no canon confirmation of any of that.