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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2010-03-23 04:32 pm

[ SECRET POST #1174 ]


⌈ Secret Post #1174 ⌋

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Re: 147

[identity profile] powercorrupts.livejournal.com 2010-03-24 12:40 am (UTC)(link)
I am not educated enough in this matter to say what I wish I could here. Like I said above, there's a field of study on these issues - one you're clearly not familiar with. And just like I can't exactly go around explaining from the ground up any of those other subjects I've been trying to study, like art or computers, to someone with no idea what the field even entails, I don't approach being capable of explaining this the way it deserves. Nor am I even properly educated in it, but google provides links to blogs that are.


If a white person in america is somehow being prejudiced against, by an academic definition of racism, they are not being a victim of racism. Racism is not the act of a single bigot; it's a societal force, an institution.

Trying to be conscientious and not manage to seriously offend and genuinely hurt people isn't the same as stifling your own speech. It's not honesty to not care about whether or not you hurt someone's feelings with your words. It's being an asshole, at the very least. And hey, some people are happy as assholes.

But personally, I like to remember that I didn't like it when male customers who called into my tech support asked me for a "real tech support agent" when I picked up the phone because I have a female voice and name. I sure don't like hearing that queer people are degenerate perverts. And neither of those examples are hurtful because they're "honest" - they're hurtful because they're kicking someone who is already down and knows they are. They're a reminder that in the eyes of someone with more privilege, my feelings not only don't deserve to be watched out for, you get bonus points if you get skidmarks when you run them over for no reason other than you can.

When people genuinely moderate their speech to consider that they might be contributing to marginalizing people who are already marginalized by society in some way, they aren't trying to be dishonest. They're remembering that the words they're avoiding using, the implications they're trying to keep out of their speech are loaded with meanings that can hurt someone - and can't hurt them.

But if being an asshole works for you, hey. Good thing for you that you have the privilege that lets that be an option.

Re: 147

[identity profile] preosmo.livejournal.com 2010-03-24 06:57 am (UTC)(link)
Whoa, dude. Way to get all up in arms about nothing. Yeah, part of it might be because I explained things poorly but honestly, we're talking about two different things.

I never said anything about your sexual preference, so get off your damn soapbox. You'll never hear me call you a degenerate pervert because I don't think you are. Hell, even my religion supports homosexuality. It seems to me you've been burned by people judging and I'm sorry for you. But I didn't do it so don't take shit out on me.

There's a difference between PC and politeness. Politeness is not actively trying to hurt someone's feelings. Political Correctness is using round-about words and terms to describe the same thing because for some fucking reason, the quicker, easier way to say it is somehow wrong. Example, it's not PC to say, 'I fucked that chick.' It IS PC to say, 'I slept with that woman.' Why not call things as they are? Kristie Alley isn't big-boned, she's fat. Lindsay Lohan isn't 'thin', she's anorexic (or bullimic. Or just an addict).