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fandomsecrets2010-03-23 04:32 pm
case) wrote in fandomsecrets2010-03-23 04:32 pm
[ SECRET POST #1174 ]
⌈ Secret Post #1174 ⌋
Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.
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the brits DID have slaves ...
(Anonymous) 2010-03-24 12:33 pm (UTC)(link)Uhhhh, if you're from Britain, this statement is incorrect. King Charles the II allowed for the Brits to [re]enter the slave trade in the late 1600s. They then abolished slavery a full 56 years before the Americans did [1807]. But there were slaves in Europe. The fact that the cane fields were across the Atlantic doesn't mean there weren't slaves wandering about Europe. I don't know about the rest of Europe, and their slavery policies, but yes, Britain had slaves.
Re: the brits DID have slaves ...
(Anonymous) 2010-03-24 02:17 pm (UTC)(link)Every country has a taint. No one in Europe is ever truely innocent of colonization but the problems are different than in the US. because a) no country here consistently spans an entire continent (except Russia but I know even less about Russia than about the US so I don't feel free to comment) and so needed to sustain itself by agriculture spanning half a continent and manned by slaves (not since the roman empire, anyway) and b) we never had huge fields with slaves here. The atrocities were generally committed in the colonies rather than in the countries. Our hang-ups have a lot more to do with barging in on other countries' business. There's STILL a huge debate here every single time the country wants to sent soldiers into an African country as part of a UN peacekeeping force. The public feels very uneasy about this because there's still lingering guilt over colonization. We probably feel more uneasy about it than the country that's waiting for the UN to help them but you can't help that.
Which is to say no, I still am not as sensitive about American history and insults and discrimination because they. are. different. The entire world doesn't need to feel your guilt to validate you, we have a different cross to bear and we really don't want to bear yours too.
Re: the brits DID have slaves ...
(Anonymous) 2010-03-24 09:35 pm (UTC)(link)No-one ever said I was an American, I'm just pointing out the history of slavery that a lot of AMERICANS don't want to remember either. I'm not asking your precious snowflake self to bare any crosses that aren't yours, or validate anything of me. Just seeking to validate some history here. That's all.
The end of slavery in Britain and the British colonies is probably one of the coolest history stories [a population started the movement using sugar. That's just pretty aweosome] that more people should know about.