[ SECRET POST #1177 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #1177 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

101.


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102.


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103.
(Army Wives)


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104.
[Being Human]


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105.
[Clerks]


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106.
[Patti Boyd/Beatles]


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107.
[Sasameki Koto]


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108.
[Rock & Rule]


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109.
[Power Rangers: Lightspeed Rescue]


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110.
[Eric Saade and Andreas Johnson]


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111.
(Empire Records/BSG)


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112.
(Blake's 7)


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113.
[FF13]


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114.
[Kristin Chenoweth]


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115.
[Jan Josef Liefers/Christoph Waltz]


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116.
[Yuu Yuu Hakusho]


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117.
[Kerli's Tea Party]


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118.
[The Lonely Island/Lady Gaga]


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119.
[Star Wars: Knight of the Old Republic]


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120.


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121.
[treksixwords]


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122.
["Hamish & Andy"]


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123.
[Cowboy Bebop]


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124.
[Cable and Deadpool, Avengers, Young Avengers]


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125.
[Placebo]


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126.
[skins]


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127.
[Celtic Thunder]


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128.
[Alan Turing]


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129.
[skins]


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130.


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131.
[iCarly]


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132.
[Powerpuff Girls]


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133.
[Big Time Rush]


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134.
[30 Rock]


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135.
[Love Never Dies]


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136.
(Hanna Is Not a Boy's Name)


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137.
[vlogbrothers]


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138.
[Blake's 7]


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139.
[A Very Potter Musical]


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140.


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141.
[Ouran]


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142.
[Heavy Rain]


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143.
[Magic Knight Rayearth]


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144.
[Mata Hari]


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145.
[Moral Orel]


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146.
[Katawa Shoujo]


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147.


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148.
[Rebel Without a Cause/Sal Mineo and James Dean]


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149.
[Merlin/Bradley James]


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150.
[SAW]


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152.


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153.
[Archer]


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154.
(200 Cigarettes)


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155.
(Hanna Is Not a Boy's Name)


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156. [SPOILERS for Harry Potter]



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157. [SPOILERS for Dollhouse]



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158. [SPOILERS for Glee]



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159. [SPOILERS for Skins]



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160. [SPOILERS for Dr Who]



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161. [SPOILERS for Skins]



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162. [SPOILERS for Bioshock]




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Comments

[resounding-echo.livejournal.com]

I'm not into flames or wank, but I certainly invite discussion and dissenting opinions and views! :)

I agree that it's possible (likely) that ALW & Co just felt this was an easy, base way to generate sympathy for Christine, and make sequel!Phantom seem like a viable romantic option. But even if this true, I choose not to interpret Raoul in this manner. I'll admit I went into this show hopeful if not expectant, and I was most concerned about poor Meg and Raoul. Well, turns out, after a few close listens, that I find Christine pretty boring, the Phantom the most unlikeable, and Raoul and Meg both the most interesting and the ones I most easier and readily sympathize with.

I think it is believable that Raoul might alter and behave in this manner, after ten years of feeling inadequate and unloved. I don't think he was unloved by Christine, but I think he realized he couldn't fulfill a very real need in her, and he realized that the Phantom could, and was, if not threatened by the memory, than at least abhorrent to her indulging in singing.

I'm not saying I look at PotO and look at LND and think, "yes, this is the logical extension of that character." More it's like, "this is a plausible interpretation of this character, given how much their relationship as altered in this version."

Honestly, I don't mind (and even like) LND because it doesn't threaten my enjoyment or my interpretation of the original stage musical.

As for Meg, my interpretation of that pier scene is that she believes she is saving Gustave. We learn in the bar scene at the beginning of act two that Meg sees the water as cleansing, as forgiveness, as baptismal. If Gustave is an innocent to the seedy underbelly and corruption of Coney Island, and, to Meg's mind, a victim to the decisions of his parents, water is release into sweet oblivion. I think her mental state is too unstable towards the end to interpret that scene as the willful and spiteful intent to hurt a child.

[coconutty-tree.livejournal.com]

Christine is easily the most yawn-worthy character in LND. At least in PotO she had multiple dimensions (fear driving her to rip off his mask then eventual compassion/bravery allowing her to give him that kiss, a solitary touch of human kindness.) As for Phanty, had he survived he probably would have spent his remaining days pining for his Christine but nobody wants to pay money to see a guy in a mask mope. XD I don't really find either of them "unlikeable" but they're not exactly riveting characters either.

I agree that Raoul would be insecure due to his inability to provide the music facet to his relationship with Christine. That side of her will always remain locked from his understanding. I can imagine that insecurity would lead him to jealousy and, in an attempt at putting on a bold facade, drive him to make that bet in DTtH. I still find it unnecessary to make him alcoholic. It's that extremity that irritates me about his characterisation.

I also agree that Meg is completely off her rocker by the end of the stageshow. The problem in my mind however is this: Meg shouldn't be crazy in the first place. It's hard to believe Mme. Giry, who was always looking out for her students, would whore out her own daughter. I think Mme. Giry, like most mothers, would do everything in her power to save her child from such an ugly fate.

Now, if Meg wanted to do all that crap on her own that's another kettle of fish. I'm fine with her harbouring a growing attraction to the Phantom if he's cared for her since PotO (though I think it's more plausible that she'd resent him for dragging her across the globe...). A couple of lines about how her mother disapproves but knows she can't stop her wouldn't have gone amiss though!

I dunno what I'm trying to say here. I disagree with a sequel period because I think the original ends beautifully. If ALW had to go whip up a Phantom 2 though, I just feel like he could've handled it a lot better. There's really no explanation for why these characters are so different -- it's left completely up to the audience's imagination -- and I think that's part of LND's major downfall.