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⌈ Secret Post #1233 ⌋

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[Bill O'Reilly/Glenn Beck]

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[White Collar]

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105.

[Peep Show]

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[Hetalia]

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107.

[Soul Eater]

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108.

[Gilmore Girls]

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[Weregeek]

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110.

[Big Bang Theory]

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[Anastasia]

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112.

[V/Wolverine and the X-Men]

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113.

[Halo]

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114.

[Glee]

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[Star Trek]

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116.

[Ocean Girl]

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117.

[Blake's 7]

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[FF12]

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119.

[Boys Over Flowers]

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120.

[Bettie Page, Dita von Teese]

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121.

[Yahtzee]

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122.

[FMA]

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123.

[Samuel Johnson's Rasselas, Code Geass, Tom Waits]

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[The Tribe]

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125.

[Scream, "Alias," "Desperate Housewives," "Lost," Hercules, Green Day's "Time of Your Life (Good Riddance)," "Friends," Cyndi Lauper, Now and Then, "Gilmore Girls," "Spongebob Squarepants," Dirty Dancing and "How I Met Your Mother" and did you really need to list every single one]

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126.

[The Losers]

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127.

[L4D2]

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128.

[How to Train Your Dragon]

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129.

[Suikoden 5]

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130.

[One Piece]

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131.

[Community]

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132.

[Roswell]

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133.

[Lost]

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134.

[Brawl, Metroid, Metal Gear Solid]

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135.

[Rooster Teeth]

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136.

[The Maria Bamford Show]

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137.

[The Office]

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[Frasier]

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139.

[Family Ties]

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[Homestuck]

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[Higher Ground]

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142.

[Simon Amstell]

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143.

[Yu Yu Hakusho]

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144.

[Quantum Leap]

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145.

[The Young Veins]

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146.

[Iron Man 2]

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147.

[Panic at the disco/The young veins]

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148.

[CSI]

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149.

[Matt Bomer & Tim DeKay]

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[Harry Potter]

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[Tegan & Sara]

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152.

[Code Geass]

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[Kick-Ass]

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[Sherie Rene Scott]

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[Naruto]

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[Iron Man]

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[Bruce Springsteen - Stolen Car]

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158.

[Adam Baldwin]

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159.

[Anderson Cooper and Kelly Ripa]

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[Glee]

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[porn; Spartacus: Blood and Sand]

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[Jeremy Abbott]

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163.

[Stéphane Lambiel/Johnny Weir]

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164.

[Un Gancho Al Corazón]

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165.

[Fever Pitch]

166. [SPOILERS for Phoenix Wright]

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167. [SPOILERS for Robin/Batgirl]

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168. [SPOILERS for the Tawny Man series]

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169. [SPOILERS for Smallville]

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170. [SPOILERS for Pokemon]

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171. [SPOILERS for Supernatural]

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I don't really get why these two women are viewed as being "alternative beauties". Neither of them are outside the societal norm of "beautiful"; Dita is just as skinny as any Hollywood starlet. Just because they dye their hair black, put on red lipstick, and dress like 50s pinups with a goth twist doesn't mean they're shattering beauty norms.

I don't mean to deny your (or the OP's) satisfaction, but I really don't understand it... *maybe* I can see Bettie Page, *maybe*, but I don't think society has ever treated 36-24-36s like they're unattractive. Even if small breasts are in right now.

The thing is, Dita really is outside society's norms, at least to me. I'm pale, I love 50s fashion, I have darker hair, I love stockings and tights, and I love to wear the pin-up inspired makeup, so I's really refreshing to see someone who looks like Dita be successful and well-known. I mean, you Google Image 'Hollywood beauty' or any variation on it, most people you see are blonde, straight haired, tanned, and dressed in very modern clothing.

50 years ago, Dita might have been considered a beauty 'norm'- now, she's not, and I admire her enormously for that, and for giving me the confidence to do as I like and fuck what everyone else thinks.

Also, I don't really understand how being skinny automatically makes you 'fit into' society's standards of beauty? Just because you're skinny doesn't mean everyone automatically thinks you're beautiful/normal/what-have-you.

Also-

You tell me which one's outside of the society's current beauty and fashion norms.

Their *fashion* is different, but if Dita put on that dress Megan Fox was wearing? She'd look pretty similar. Minus a tan, but I view that as being a fashion choice, too. And even with the fashion choices-- in which Dita really just conforms to a *different* flavor of the beauty standard, with the same amount of grooming, attention to aesthetics, and cultured femininity-- Dita still has the bone structure, facial features, and, yes, body of any other celebrity. I don't feel like the fact that she styles herself differently is shattering any beauty norms.

I'm glad they've helped you towards self-acceptance and feeling sexy, though. That's definitely positive, no matter how confusing I find it.

This.

I can understand where you're coming from, but I think we're going to have to agree to disagree. =)

Thiiiis.

ARGH, this.

No, they're not Cameron Diaz, but they still conform to a pretty "normal" standard of beauty, imho.

By the way, Betty Page died in December of 2008 at the age of 85; she didn't "dress like" a '50s pinup, she was the ultimate and archytypal 1950s pinup.

Dumbass.

I'm well aware of that. My phrasing might not have been the best, but they both dress in similar styles and I was describing them BOTH as "like a '50s pinup". Page because she was one, Dita because she dresses like one.

Thanks for your contribution to this discussion!

Well, you have the courage of your utter idiocy, I'll say that for you.

The fact that you can't see it just means you have awesome standards *cheers*

Small breasts are in now? When did I miss this? :o

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