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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2010-06-05 06:43 pm

[ SECRET POST #1250 ]


⌈ Secret Post #1250 ⌋

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Secrets Left to Post: 24 pages, 622 secrets from Secret Submission Post #179.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 1 - repeat ].
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[identity profile] verschreibsel.livejournal.com 2010-06-05 11:15 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah exactly. I mean the OP didn't say that she was right to write fanfiction or that she didn't know it was forbidden.

It was less the teacher calling her out and more the teacher reading what she had written and showing it to the OP's parents which resulted in the OP having to get therapy.

(Anonymous) 2010-06-05 11:26 pm (UTC)(link)
This.

I used to write my diary in lessons, because the lessons were boring.

If a teacher had taken it and shown it to my headmistress and/or my parents, I would have been beyond furious.

(Anonymous) 2010-06-05 11:30 pm (UTC)(link)
You might have been furious, but in truth it would have been your own bloody fault. I don't update LJ at work when I know my boss could be reading my entries over my shoulder either.

(Anonymous) 2010-06-05 11:35 pm (UTC)(link)
Or, it could be the fault of the teachers for being so amazingly boring that writing my diary was the only way to stop myself throwing myself out the window.

(Anonymous) 2010-06-05 11:40 pm (UTC)(link)
If being bored was really driving you to suicide, you obviously could have used some therapy too.

(Anonymous) 2010-06-05 11:47 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh hell yes. But that's another point entirely.

(Anonymous) 2010-06-05 11:49 pm (UTC)(link)
While I understand where you're coming from (various grades were painfully boring for me, and I'll agree that North American education systems are nowhere near perfect), you should still feel lucky to be receiving an education. Not everyone gets one, and various people have much worse problems within a school system than it being 'boring'.

(Anonymous) 2010-06-06 12:04 am (UTC)(link)
1. I'm not North American.

2. No, I do not feel lucky to have "received an education". I would feel lucky if I'd spent those hours educating myself at the library instead.

3. I had far worse problems than school being boring too, ty.

4. This all has nothing to do with Dexter porn fic anymore, does it? It's just all this "whaah whaah you should be paying attention to class or you deserve to get major shit" is making me want to vomit.

(Anonymous) 2010-06-06 12:10 am (UTC)(link)
2. No, I do not feel lucky to have "received an education".

Let's stop at 2.

http://i47.tinypic.com/4kw8ea.jpg

I know this is a shitty card to play in these kinds of debates, but you really, really should feel lucky to have what you have, you blind little infant.

(Anonymous) 2010-06-06 12:15 am (UTC)(link)
Oh right, that child is totally feeling sorry for themself because they didn't receive an education. No, I think food would count as rather more important.

Sure, I'm lucky to have grown up in a country that isn't torn by famine or war. That doesn't mean I should feel "lucky" that years of my life were wasted and ruined by my "education".

(Anonymous) 2010-06-06 12:54 am (UTC)(link)
That doesn't mean I should feel "lucky" that years of my life were wasted and ruined by my "education".

That is EXACTLY how I feel about my high school years. They turned me from a bright, popular, outgoing, creative child into a suicidally depressed teenager, and I still haven't recovered from that.

OH HEY LUCKY ME!!!

(Anonymous) 2010-06-06 09:15 pm (UTC)(link)
Get over yourself. Seriously. Grow the fuck up.

(Anonymous) 2010-06-06 12:17 am (UTC)(link)
Wow, you're an idiot.

One of my best friends in school killed himself because the bullying, including from teachers, was too much for him to take. I guess he should have just sucked it all up and been grateful he wasn't in the Sudan, eh?

(Anonymous) 2010-06-06 12:21 am (UTC)(link)
I'm sorry :(
And I agree with you.

(Anonymous) 2010-06-06 12:38 am (UTC)(link)
why the fuck would you post that

It's the same kind of guilt-tripping mothers use with 'eat your food there are starving kids in China.' People having worse problems across the globe does not invalidate your own problems, and though it is good to keep perspective, nothing will be solved if people don't address their own problems as things that are valid problems and require fixing.

(Anonymous) 2010-06-06 12:14 am (UTC)(link)
"whaah whaah you should be paying attention to class or you deserve to get major shit"

I think very few people here are saying that. I can obviously only speak for myself, but I have no problem with not paying attention in class. I don't necessarily have a problem with doing private things in class either, but if you do do them, you shouldn't be surprised if soon they're not private anymore. It's kind of like having sex with someone while your husband/wife is in the next room and then being surprised when you're found out.

(Anonymous) 2010-06-06 01:19 am (UTC)(link)
1. I only specified because I'm North American, and didn't want to make a general claim because I don't know how things are elsewhere. I admit this was worded badly and seemed presumptuous.

2. I still think you should be grateful for being given the opportunity. Besides, alone in a library you're not going to get the social experience of a classroom.

3. Okay, but you didn't mention that. All you said was that class being boring made you want to throw yourself out a window, and that's what I was addressing.

4. Not paying attention in class does not mean someone /deserves/ anything - I couldn't make that claim, after how much class time I've wasted. However, they shouldn't be surprised by the consequences of whatever they're during, for instance, writing noncon serial killer erotica might mean a call home and a trip to a therapist.

[identity profile] lyrica.livejournal.com 2010-06-06 01:45 am (UTC)(link)
Besides, alone in a library you're not going to get the social experience of a classroom.

sometimes, that's a good thing.

(Anonymous) 2010-06-06 02:40 am (UTC)(link)
2. I still think you should be grateful for being given the opportunity. Besides, alone in a library you're not going to get the social experience of a classroom.

Hello, I'm not who you were replying to, but have you even read the other responses?

Like the person who wrote One of my best friends in school killed himself because the bullying, including from teachers, was too much for him to take and the person who wrote [their high school years] turned me from a bright, popular, outgoing, creative child into a suicidally depressed teenager, and I still haven't recovered from that?

It is horribly smug and condescending of you to tell people they should be "grateful" for being given that "opportunity" and getting the "social experience of a classroom."



(Anonymous) 2010-06-06 09:17 pm (UTC)(link)
People who commit suicide because of bullying in school are usually troubled already, not that it excuses bullying behavior at all, but bullies are EVERYWHERE, not just schools.

(Anonymous) 2010-06-06 01:36 am (UTC)(link)
You mean you don't like having the ability to read and write on the level that you do?

(Anonymous) 2010-06-06 02:41 am (UTC)(link)
I don't know about the other anons, but for myself I was taught to read and write by my parents before I went to school, and if I have any particular ability at either it came from reading endless amounts of books, not from sitting in a classroom while a teacher helped the other kids catch up with things I already knew.

[identity profile] beandelphiki.livejournal.com 2010-06-06 08:23 am (UTC)(link)
God, yes. Half or more of my school experience was spent sitting around waiting like that.