ext_278733 ([identity profile] grayout.livejournal.com) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2007-05-09 06:57 pm

[ SECRET POST #124 ]


⌈ Secret Post #124 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[identity profile] deidarachan.livejournal.com 2007-05-10 12:57 am (UTC)(link)
4. I have a friend like that... Her characters are all that, plus bash every "rival" female character in the series.

It's irritating, but I felt kinda bad calling her on it. She's a year younger than me, and a little highstrung.

She recently got internet access though, and was infuriated that for some straaange reason, no one seems to like her characters. I think maybe I should've warned her beforehand.

(Anonymous) 2007-05-10 01:53 am (UTC)(link)
That was my problem as well. My friend was a bit older than me, and the RPs we did were all technically 'original', so it was a bit harder to realize quite how Sueish a lot of her female characters were since there were no 'canon' characters for her to overshadow - but by the time I realized it, she was obviously getting very sensitive about her writing and receiving crits, even friendly ones.

The end result? I had no idea how to tell her that the beautiful, arty, purple-eyed Black Sorceress who was also a supposedly sweet and beautifully innocent Priestess with amnesia and a dramatic angst past involving scientific experiments and beautiful teenage heartbreak wasn't quite as well-rounded a character as she appeared to imagine. It didn't help that the character in question quite literally got away with murder, had the most awesome array of special powers of specialness out of anyone in the cast, and everybody bar nobody loved her and thought she was amazing and hated her boyfriend - my character - for not being good enough for her sacred Sue self. She was always the best at everything and the center of attention, her Legitimate Angst topped everybody else's and, though she was both extremely manipulative and a horrible bitch a lot of the time, it was never her fault.

My friend loved this character: she thought she was really awesome. Maybe there was never anything I could have said to help matters.

As for your own friend, I wouldn't recommend outright stating that her characters are setting the old Patent Sueometer screaming - that way disaster lies. I would suggest (if you feel confident enough that she won't get mad) perhaps mentioning a couple of things she might like to work on. I tried this approach and my former friend didn't get the hint, but yours might, if you put it in the right way? I can't be any more helpful than that, because I never got round to explaining to my friend quite why her characters were starting to strike me as so irritating.

And maybe you should have, but how do you say things like this without hurting someone's feelings? I never quite managed to work out the answer to that one, but I wish you luck with it. :)

[identity profile] deidarachan.livejournal.com 2007-05-10 02:10 am (UTC)(link)
Gahh... That's just like how hers was! Only, she had a tendency to invite her psychotic brother to family events, and not get it when everyone else, who'd been screwed over by him a million times, objected. The littlest disagreements would send her character running off crying, and the NPCs would chide my character for "upsetting her again". The whole game just HAD to revolve around her, and she was never ever the fault of anything. It got downright irritating.

She had several characters, but the trend remained. A cold, aloof demon princess chick who gets upset or angry over the littlest things, and she'd have the pre-existing canon characters coo over her and stick up for her when she's sad, or get out of her way without complaints when she was mad, just going "Oh, that _____, always so tough! Be careful not to mess with her!"

I'd try to subtlely tell her that a lot of the situations she'd insist on were ridiculous, but her reaction to any negative feedback tends to be either completely ignoring it or getting angry.

She really is a nice girl, and a good friend, but... Yeesh. Her roleplaying skills could use some work.

I don't wanna upset her, but I think I might try with a few pointers next time we RP... Or maybe I should show her a link to a site that gives tips with that sort of thing.

[identity profile] the-angelic-sin.livejournal.com 2007-05-10 03:23 am (UTC)(link)
I don't think I've really understood any of the RP secrets until I read your (Anonymous's) reply. Maybe the chat room ones I took part in were actually pretty good after all. D:

I'd be tempted to read through that roleplay, honestly... it just seems like something that should be read...

[identity profile] victorisham.livejournal.com 2007-05-10 01:05 am (UTC)(link)
9. Unf fanart *__*

[identity profile] thepinkangel.livejournal.com 2007-05-10 01:11 am (UTC)(link)

10. I LOVE THAT PAIRING D: I feel GUILTY for liking it because I also like HarukaxMichiru... XD;


But ultimately...

Rei/Minako is my Sailor Moon OTP 83 ♥

[identity profile] ew-younerd.livejournal.com 2007-05-10 01:28 am (UTC)(link)
Haruka/Michiru is awesome, and while I don't like any outside pairings of them, I also don't DISLIKE any outside pairings of them (and it's not like haruka/usagi doesn't have any basis >_>).

Rei/Minako was amazing in the manga OH WHY DID THE ANIME RUIN IT

[identity profile] thepinkangel.livejournal.com 2007-05-10 01:35 am (UTC)(link)

Dude.

The anime ruined EVERYTHING.

[identity profile] iamadoughnut.livejournal.com 2007-05-10 02:30 am (UTC)(link)
10. Haruka/Usagi = very cute.

But then I ship Haruka/Hotaru. Sort of. I don't know, what the hell? Haruka/everybody! :D

[identity profile] longlongwaytogo.livejournal.com 2007-05-10 02:46 am (UTC)(link)
2. :D

[identity profile] bardiche.livejournal.com 2007-05-10 02:58 am (UTC)(link)
2. I'm having a failure to remember which episode this was, but the amount of Chaser secrets in this comm amuse me. :D

7. I'm not sure there's any real valid difference between the two, but I myself got Pearl because everyone else I knew was getting Diamond. If everyone purchased Diamond over Pearl, then nobody would get all the Pokemon, right? :D;

[identity profile] the-angelic-sin.livejournal.com 2007-05-10 03:12 am (UTC)(link)
7. I kept trying to convince people to get Pearl because everyone I knew was buying Diamond, too! In the store, however, they said everyone they knew bought Pearl. =\

(Anonymous) 2007-05-10 04:47 am (UTC)(link)
2. Season 2, ep 1. ;) I'm sure I can find plenty of other Chaser secrets to post if they amuse you so. :P

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[identity profile] concordaunce.livejournal.com 2007-05-10 05:44 am (UTC)(link)
Merc here to say

OMG YES!

(Anonymous) 2007-05-10 05:52 am (UTC)(link)
6. I've kind of fled from the Hagaren fandom,so I'm not exactly sure who's left being BNF, but I can tell you, the Royai fandom had this little gang of wannabe-BNFs(who never actually transferred to vbeing real BNFs. But trying, trying!). It was fairly lame and amusing.

Also the Royai fandom gets most of the mary sues):. it did last time I looked.

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(Anonymous) 2007-05-10 07:03 am (UTC)(link)
Can I marry you? Please say yes. ♥

[identity profile] sailormoon.livejournal.com 2007-05-10 02:54 pm (UTC)(link)
10. uuh..theres a lot of Haruka/ Usagi out there *_* Even *I* know that, and for me its all about Seiya/Usa XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

GOTTA LOOK! :O

[identity profile] ovendoor.livejournal.com 2007-05-10 06:35 pm (UTC)(link)
dfdjshfjh LMFAO AGREED @ #12. What is this non-faggotry, Reborn? DX

[identity profile] samuraiter.livejournal.com 2007-05-10 08:50 pm (UTC)(link)
To #10: Normally, I'd say it's because the fandom is dead, but, really, it's because Usagi / Mamoru fans are terrifying. (Me? All about the Usagi / Jadeite, thank you, but I keep that on the DL.)

[identity profile] dark-viaticum.livejournal.com 2007-05-11 03:55 am (UTC)(link)
I just want to say THANK YOU, No. 6 and 12! And No. 3, well. XP!

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