[ SECRET POST #1271 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #1271 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Comments

[master-kogane.livejournal.com]

But this is not about the (white) people who get defensive. Never is, never was. That they are making this about them in the first place, that I find absolutely ridiculous.

People are discussing racism in all shapes and forms and the only thing they get out of it is "well, I'm just not gonna write PoC, then! /HUFF". You don't see anything wrong with that?

[fierceawakening.livejournal.com]

I don't see how acknowledging that humans get defensive is somehow mutually exclusive with there being "anything wrong with" those reactions.

Of course there is something wrong with them; I said as much in my first comment.

[master-kogane.livejournal.com]

I read your previous comment as you being uncomfortable with the people pointing out that the HUFF kind of reaction is wrong.
I apologize for misunderstanding.

[fierceawakening.livejournal.com]

Thank you.

As someone who was working on a novel at the time of the big racefail in '09, I definitely wondered if I had written hundreds of pages of something insulting, and whether it would be best to make the Black character a white man just in case I'd made some mistake. I realized after a while that whitewashing my story wasn't the right thing to do... but I did, indeed, get defensive, and did wonder for a while if it would be the lesser of two evils to pretend that There Are No POC In Space.

I eventually realized that makes no sense, and looking over what I'd written I didn't *think* I was doing anything I didn't see. But I worried. So all that I mean is... I agree that huffs are unproductive, but the defensive "I don't know what the hell to do! I've put a lot of work into this -- years of writing -- and it's easier to get angry than to consider that I might need to spend another year fixing it all" reaction is... natural, I think, for all that it's really fucked up TOO.

[master-kogane.livejournal.com]

I understand the getting defensive reaction as well, I just think that (ideally) it should come in hand with the idea to ask others to give you input on your fic/story/characters, and that "I'm just going to give up/not even try, then" should never be how anyone should end up feeling.

[fierceawakening.livejournal.com]

Yeah, I agree. I was just saying I understand very well how other white people feel when they're going, "There's no way I can do this RIGHT!"

They're incorrect, yeah, but sometimes it feels like you're damned if you do and damned if you don't, particularly if you're worried you're navigating between the Scylla and Charybdis of two conflicting stereotypes.