[ SECRET POST #1271 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #1271 ⌋

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[thene]

men are more likely to be expected to soldier through difficulties unemotionally, and this puts a bigger strain on them.

[citation needed]

Srsly. I guess it depends somewhat on what sort of 'difficulties' you're referring to and what sort of emotions you're referring to. I'm tempted to refer you to the only good Family Guy episode - the one where Lois flips her shit and climbs the Christmas tree. Women - mothers especially - are frequently expected to soldier through difficulties and to not express anger or other strong negative emotions.

I feel that reluctance to hurt female characters may stem from a culture of misogynistic 'chivalry' - the culture that says both 'don't hit girls' and 'girls aren't allowed to hit back'. The differences between men and women are much, much smaller than the differences in the social expectations of men and the social expectations of women. I tend to go with 'nonexistent' because I am tired of being told that I can't possibly exist because I identify with women's expectations not at fucking all.

Broader range is definitely true - there's some female characters I love but many I hate because they're not written as if they were people; their role is 'woman' rather than 'person' and that is just boring and artificial as all fuck. Most of my OCs and almost all my RP characters are female (okay, a few of them are genderqueer). Most of the characters I write about in fanfics are cisgendered men.

Spoiler, the character in my icon is a guy. A dead guy who's possessing a female body because it was the first one he found, so I think of him as a trans guy who presents as female because it's convenient. This may be a translation error but I don't care - the English version definitely states that Minette is really a dude.

[demiincarnate.livejournal.com]

Citation needed? Don't tell me you've never heard misogynists say that women are "weaker" and "more emotional". Don't tell me you've never heard the expression "I hate to see a grown man cry". I'd say that's one of the biggest issues of discrimination against women, that people assume that women are prone to breaking down in tears while men can just buck up and face things. It is true that women are expected not to express anger but rather to express defeat, but my point was less that women get off easy (which they don't) and more that people expect men to deal with problems in a different way.
We agree on a very important fact: The differences between men and women are much, much smaller than the differences in the social expectations of men and the social expectations of women. This is the biggest reason why male characters and female characters are different. At the same time, it's simply irresponsible to claim that men and women are innately the same. Biology has proven otherwise. Men and women do think differently, and behave differently. The difference is small, but it's there, and shouldn't be ignored. If the minds of men and women were identical, gender identity wouldn't be an issue, because the only determinant of gender would be the body. I do not fit many stereotypical views of women, myself, but my mind is not very feminine.
Chivalry may be the reasons some authors prefer not to hurt women, but not I. I just happen to enjoy writing stories in which male characters get hurt. This is probably because I find men sexually attractive.

[dethtoll.livejournal.com]

so sometimes at work i go get dinner at chickafila (i work nights)

the sandwiches aren't bad, for the price, but the nuggets are bullshit, they're tiny and cost like 6 bucks for 8 pieces

i dreamt last night that i opened a nugget box and it was full of tiny fried severed heads

that's not the worst part

the worst part is i ate them anyway 'cuz they were bigger than the chicken

i don't even know what the fuck that even means but i'm not getting chickafila for a while

[(Anonymous)]

OP here.
I get what you say about 'chivalry' (though, I can say that in my fics, though I prefer that the girls not be hit, I would absolutely expect them to hit back).
But part of the reason I'm so confused is also because I think I just wouldn't get the same satisfaction out of whaling on a female character the way I do on the male ones.
On the other hand, I only have one major fandom, and in that fandom the character I identify the most with is male - which definitely contributes to writing about men more.