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The problem with Ginny is that she acquired all her supposed awesomeness offscreen. We didn't get to see her evolve, she simply changed from a little shy mouse girl into a SuperAwesome SuperPopular Hot Action Red Head in one summer. The character is perceived as a Mary Sue because she was written as one. It's not her characteristics that make her so, it's the way she gets there.

Hermione ends the series being an attractive successfull sharp open-minded young woman of extraordinary intelligence and skills (possibly more intelligent than any other character, since her emotional maturity is quite higher than Dumbledore's and Voldemort's in comparable ages), and she was sought after by a very popular famous seeker and by one of the main characters, she appearred on the media in canon, people speculated about her relationship with the hero, and canon females were canonly jealous of her. You know why she isn't perceived as a Mary Sue? Because she got all of that in front of us. We saw her becoming all that, from another shy little lonely insecure girl, into that astounding woman. Ginny didn't get that, and her supposed awesomeness was forced down our throats suddenly.

tl;dr: Ginny is a case of bad writing

Somehow I get the feeling the Mary Sue should have been Hermione... but then again, fans would call JKR on that, so no. Completely developed that character, and didn't even get her to hook up with the hero of the story! Mary Sue avoided there. Phew. But then, Harry = alone? Poor baby! Let's give him the best's friend sister! =D Because that's not obvious enough... And all that work goes down the drain, JKR. D:

Honestly, though. I just couldn't care less about Ginny. =D Harry should have ended the story alone, wth. Why does he need to meet the love of his life in school? (Like that's realistic OR original! -_-)

But, tldr; I read HP fanfic when the mood strikes, only, and mostly slash. Maybe I'm just butthurt that Harry doesn't get a boyfriend at end. LOL.

SuperAwesome SuperPopular Hot Action Red Head in one summer

This seems to me to be a case of SuperExaggeration actually. You see her come out of her shell in GoF and glimpses of her real personality in CoS and PoA before she shuts up infront of Harry.

Didn't seem too exaggerated to me. Ginny is, in a short (for HP) amount of time established as physically attractive by more than one character, great at Quidditch, smart, talented, brave and her personality is apparently supposed to be the kind that is cheeky and fiery but also totally caring and wise. One does get the sense that she can do no wrong.

Someone mentions Neville somewhere in this thread; even with Neville we got to see more of his development, and even some foreshadowing of his potential. Plus, Neville was such a butt-monkey pre-DH that a whole five minutes of gary-stuness was more than his due.

I still mourn what Ginny could have been. A character whose character traits weren't all designed to compliment (or more like reward) Harry and exaggerated via some bad writing because the romance subplot was kinda rushed and jammed into one book.

:<

THIS.

Yeah you see Ginny's development in patches, unlike the trio because they hang out together all the time, which is the same kind of development Neville gets. Ginny and Neville have the same style of on and off screen development and both end up as being "cool" but I don't see people calling Neville a Stu. No he's BAMF even though the Neville we see in HBP and DH are two different people. We didn't see his development either ....

Also, Hermione is hardly who I'd call open minded. It's what I hate the most about her, how narrow minded she is. I'd say her development is that she becomes less obnoxious and concerned with rules by the end.

Because Neville did get more character development, what with his whole family deal and the attention we pay to him in books 4 and 5, which makes him unstable and his sudden rage and awakening more believable. Also, he didn't get involved with one of the main characters, which irks a lot of people, and in this particular case very understandably (since it literally comes out of nowhere, Harry's supreme desire for Ginny and that ridiculous "roaring chest monster"). Finally, since Neville didn't get to be handsome or successful in the end, I guess fans believe it balances out.

I truly think Hermione is very open-minded and understanding. More than anybody else in the series other than Dumbledore, and that's only during the story and not the past, as we saw. Her development is that she becomes self-assured through friendship, relaxed, less defensive, and learns to act impulsively. All the while without losing her essence, being insufferably smart and sticking to rules more than others. That's why her development is good, it's not erasing one thing for another, but growing from one essence and acting as a compliment to it. Can you see any semblance of Ginny from the first three books in the later Ginny? I don't.

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