ext_278733 ([identity profile] grayout.livejournal.com) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2007-05-13 04:14 pm

[ SECRET POST #128 ]


⌈ Secret Post #128 ⌋

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Posting for me! And early 'cause I gotta go do Mother's Day stuff. No one's complaining, right?

Ahajkeghae 1 wasn't worksafe, just switched it with 12. Also, 7 replaced!

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[identity profile] pretentioustfu.livejournal.com 2007-05-13 10:20 pm (UTC)(link)
1: WORD. I'm quite sick of people who use someone's fandoms (especially anime/manga) as a means of putting them down or writing what they have to say off as irrelevant. Yes, there's a lot of crappy anime and manga (so much that I don't read/watch a series unless it's been recced to me/I've read and loved fanfiction for it/I could preview it on YouTube or crimsonevening or flip through a book in a store), BUT there's also very much good stuff. For every five or six crap series, there's one like Cowboy Bebop or RahXephon which totally uses the genre to make a good story, and there's also occasions of the anime being mediocre/OK but the manga being really great.

And you know what? Thanks to the ease of accessing anime and manga online, it's a lot easier to spot crap on sight and avoid it than it is for, say, an American movie which only has its best promotional clips online. Yes, some of us "stupid otaku" are actually quite picky about what we will and will not read or watch. We're NOT all "omg it's anime it must be good."

Not to mention that American/British/Western media has its fair share of crap too. Think of all of the rightfully canceled TV shows and the ones people watch that appeal to the lowest possible common denominators, the box-office bombs and the generally pointless, plotless stuff that yet becomes a big hit instead of a bomb, the books that are so forgettable you wouldn't even remember the author's name or that are so bad you do remember and vow never to read again.

[identity profile] kinneas.livejournal.com 2007-05-14 09:11 am (UTC)(link)
lowest possible common denominators

All of CBS?

*shot*

[identity profile] kinneas.livejournal.com 2007-05-14 09:14 am (UTC)(link)
But seriously. CBS sucks.

[identity profile] pretentioustfu.livejournal.com 2007-05-14 09:19 am (UTC)(link)
*nods* It does. I think they've relied far too much on reality shows and comedies to carry them, and even the major exceptions to the "reality and comedy" rule (the CSIs and Jericho) are too poorly-researched and sinking farther and farther into bad-writing suck as it goes on. (and damn I had hopes with the first episode that Jericho could have been good *is a sucker for post-apocalyptic* but. . . even the first episode was soul-sucking, in that I've done research on nuclear weapons to write my Trigun fics -since that's the only thing comparable to the angel arms-, and GRAH NOOOO NOOOO SOOO MUCH WRONG.)

[identity profile] kinneas.livejournal.com 2007-05-14 09:39 am (UTC)(link)
God, even beyond their shitty reality and even shittier "comedy" is the shitty generic drama, like Cold Case and Close to Home. YAY MORE CLICHE CRIME DRAMA that anyone with an iota of experience with law enforcement or even common sense knows is so far off the mark it's not even in the field.

...And yet it still carries the ratings.

The only thing I'll ever watch on CBS is Sunday morning politicos and Stargate in HD in Saturday nights.

It's such a shame that generally good primetime networks like NBC see such decline in ratings because America is retarded. Why the fuck would you watch crap like Ghost Whisperer when you can watch an actual quality show like Medium or Raines?

[identity profile] pretentioustfu.livejournal.com 2007-05-14 09:45 am (UTC)(link)
I know. I mentioned CSI and Jericho as the only drama hopes they had that are now diving straight for the shit sewer along with Cold Case and Close To Home.

*is completely agreed* I avoided mainstream network TV for a loooong time. Whether out of being a total Sims 2 addict (what fun is watching TV when you can make your own?) or out of working on writing or art or something else more, or out of reading.

Now I watch House on Fox (as much as I hate Fox, it's my only regular-watch show), the occasional episode of Law and Order (as sucky as it is sometimes, they're at least a *little* more accurate for police drama than the CSI variants are), and the occasional episode of Heroes (if it's focusing on Hiro and Ando ♥ )

[identity profile] kinneas.livejournal.com 2007-05-14 09:52 am (UTC)(link)
Oh hell yes, I used to completely avoid mainstream TV beyond old Law&Order reruns (pre-Fred Thompson) and news because if I was gonna sit in front of the tube, it'd be with a PS2... but then my parents got Tivo and a giant screen after I moved out, so I go over and watch stuff constantly. To list off all the TV (including House ewww fox but mostly relegated to SciFi and NBC) I watch now would take a while.

It just pains me that there's a lot of quality stuff around, and people would rather watch King of Queens than 30 Rock.