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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2010-09-10 04:30 pm

[ SECRET POST #1346 ]


⌈ Secret Post #1346 ⌋

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[identity profile] fscom.livejournal.com 2010-09-10 08:33 pm (UTC)(link)
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[identity profile] feywood.livejournal.com 2010-09-10 08:53 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, he lies about who he is, yeah he's a jerk who sneaks out in the morning.
But I don't recall him ever forcing anyone into having sex with him.

(Anonymous) 2010-09-10 08:59 pm (UTC)(link)
I think this secret is a huge exagguration, but not totally without grounds. There was an episode where at the end, he said his next ploy was going to the amnesia ward with a bunch of flowers and pictures of some kids, and pretending to be someone's husband, to have sex with her. That would be rape, making an amnesiac think you're their husband.

It wouldn't surprise me if there were others. Getting women so drunk they don't know what they're doing is a Barney tactic, after all.

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[identity profile] dreamsofspike.livejournal.com 2010-09-10 09:00 pm (UTC)(link)
please elaborate...

personally (and i'm a huge fan of the show, and of Barney, so if I'm biased, it's in his favor :P lol) I see his characterization as someone who *might* do some things that could technically be considered rape -- like for example, taking advantage of a woman who's had too much to drink to be able to consent, etc -- but I can't recall any instance in the show itself when he's actually *done* that... he *does* get women drunk, but that in itself does not constitute rape...

example, please?
Edited 2010-09-10 21:01 (UTC)

(Anonymous) 2010-09-10 09:10 pm (UTC)(link)
He's talked about doing thing that would be rape (see my comment above, pretending to be an amnesiac's husband). I can't think of any instance where they've showed him doing anything that would be rape. I don't know the show super well, that example just stuck in my head because it made me WTF at the time. (I'm not the OP btw.)

(Anonymous) 2010-09-11 01:27 am (UTC)(link)
how is that 'technically' considered rape

that is rape

[identity profile] tee-sama.livejournal.com 2010-09-10 09:01 pm (UTC)(link)
It seems dubious sometimes to me (getting them drunk and all that) but not really nonconsensual...I don't know. I wouldn't call it a rape.

[identity profile] ryuutchi.livejournal.com 2010-09-10 09:11 pm (UTC)(link)
Getting someone drunk and having sex with them is, in fact, legally rape. Having sex with someone who can't consent (because they are incapacitated or their reasoning is impaired) is considered rape in many places.

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(Anonymous) 2010-09-10 09:08 pm (UTC)(link)
For a second I thought this secret was talking about NPH not the character Barney and I started freaking out XD

[identity profile] spider-rogue.livejournal.com 2010-09-10 09:54 pm (UTC)(link)
lol, me too. I was like OH NOOOOOOOOOO

[identity profile] snowdevil-crow.livejournal.com 2010-09-10 10:42 pm (UTC)(link)
Me too.

(Anonymous) 2010-09-10 09:11 pm (UTC)(link)
If being kinda sleazy and lying in order to get into someone's pants constituted rape the prisons would be full.

Also, this kind of thing undermines the use of the word a little. I don't recall Barney ever drugging anyone or forcing himself on anyone, or even ever with a girl (on screen) who didn't seem willing or even eager to be with him. They might have regretted it later, but that doesn't make it rape.

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[identity profile] wasabi-girl1.livejournal.com 2010-09-10 09:33 pm (UTC)(link)
Ngl, I LOL-ed at the clarification. XD

(Anonymous) 2010-09-10 09:39 pm (UTC)(link)
"I've spent the last two days trying to remember every girl I've slept with and all of the horrible things I've done to them, and I've done some horrible things. I mean at one point I'm pretty sure I sold a woman. I didn't speak the language but I shook a guy's hand he gave the keys to a Mercedes and I left her there."

Yeah... That was the point where he crossed the line from "rolling the eyes" to "dude, not funny" for me.

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(Anonymous) 2010-09-10 10:10 pm (UTC)(link)
You can find misogynistic character funny, you know. Humour doesn't have detractors like morals. It always perplexes me when people are angry at the characters for rape/misogyny/racism etc. The character, by definition, has no chance of changing their opinions, and comedy characters especially are completely skewed in terms of sensible characterisation.

If you want to get angry about how this portrays "rape" or something in a positive light, then get angry at the writers that have written him. You can enjoy the character for being a caricature.

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(Anonymous) 2010-09-10 10:17 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't think rape means what you think it means.

here's what it means in the US, at least

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(Anonymous) 2010-09-10 10:18 pm (UTC)(link)
I always thought Barney was a parody/satire of dudebros.

(Anonymous) 2010-09-10 10:55 pm (UTC)(link)
So, basically your secret is "How dare you disagree with my interpretation of the character! How dare you not see what I see!"

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[identity profile] that-evening.livejournal.com 2010-09-10 11:35 pm (UTC)(link)
The character is a douch, no doubt, but he's never raped anyone.

You know, unless you are one of those that believe that any man who has sex with a woman without even the thought of maybe one day marrying her is a rapist (sadly, I've met these kind of people....).

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(Anonymous) 2010-09-11 01:30 am (UTC)(link)
i hate pretty much everyone who has posted in this comment thread saying it's a ~gray area~

srsly fuck you guys

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[identity profile] that-evening.livejournal.com 2010-09-11 02:06 am (UTC)(link)
I'd also like to add that, since he's a character in a comedy, we are not suppose to take him seriously. I don't see anyone saying, "wow, he has the right idea about how to treat women!" We don't laugh at just what he does but laugh at him for being so pathetic to do it. None of it is to be taken seriously.

[identity profile] trekkiesara.livejournal.com 2010-09-11 02:19 am (UTC)(link)
To me Barney always seemed like he was just doing the drunken hookup thing, although since his whole life is drunken hookups he just tries to make it a bit more fun with the role-playing.

[identity profile] veronica-rich.livejournal.com 2010-09-11 03:06 am (UTC)(link)
Of course, it wouldn't occur to anyone that Barney is talking shit to pad his own notched bedpost when he tells those stories. Because you see him lie to women and try a multitude of sleazy pickup tactics, but I'm up through season 4 and not once have I seen him get a girl drunk or force her into sex.

I mean, why would he exaggerate? It's not like comedy comes from that. Or that this show is a comedy. Oh, wait-

if they're not drunk/drugged, it's okay

(Anonymous) 2010-09-16 08:42 pm (UTC)(link)
I've recently realized, though, that all my favorite sitcom characters

ARE HORRIBLE PEOPLE

Just...entire cast of Seinfeld, anyone?